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Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« on: August 03, 2008, 06:49:03 PM »
Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Prosecutors likely would have sought the death penalty against a researcher who killed himself after learning he was going to be charged in the 2001 anthrax killings, two sources told CNN on Friday.
 
Former U.S. Army researcher Bruce Ivins was found unconscious in his Frederick, Maryland, home on Sunday.

Three sources familiar with the investigation said the case soon will be closed because a threat no longer exists. No information has been made public about what charges were planned.

Authorities had been investigating Bruce Ivins, 62, a former researcher at the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, a bioweapons laboratory at Fort Detrick, Maryland, according to the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is still officially open. Ivins had been working at Fort Detrick trying to develop a vaccine against the deadly anthrax toxin.

A U.S. official with knowledge of the investigation told CNN on Friday that authorities were looking at whether Ivins released anthrax as a way to test his vaccine.

A spokesman for Maryland's medical examiner told CNN Friday the official cause of Ivins' death on Tuesday was suicide. One of CNN's sources said Ivins knew he was about to be charged.

The medical examiner's spokesman said he could not confirm a report in the Los Angeles Times that Ivins had taken Tylenol mixed with codeine. The Times first reported Ivins' death on its Web site early Friday...

Scientist: DNA led agents to anthrax suspect

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FREDERICK, Md. - DNA taken from the bodies of people killed in the 2001 anthrax attacks helped lead investigators to Bruce Ivins, who oversaw the highly specific type of toxin in an Army lab, a government scientist said Sunday.

Using new genome technology, researchers looked at samples of cells from the victims to identify the kind of anthrax Ames strain that killed them, the scientist said. They noticed very subtle differences in the DNA of the strain used in the attacks than in other types of Ames anthrax.

With that, investigators linked the specific type of anthrax back to Ivins' biological weapons lab at Ft. Detrick in Frederick, Md., where he oversaw its use and handling for research...




Exclusive audiotape: Ivins was a psychotic "revenge killer"


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In a chilling audiotape, a former therapist of anthrax-case suspect Dr. Bruce Ivins warns a Maryland judge that Ivins is a psychotic "revenge killer" who boasted of buying a gun and killing his co-workers.

The New York Times exclusively obtained the audiotape of a court hearing in which therapist Jean Duley told a judge that she feared for her life. She testifies that, at a July 9 group-therapy session, Ivins announced that he had bought a gun and a bulletproof vest and was plotting to kill his co-workers at the Fort Detrick Army research laboratory.

“He was going to go out in a blaze of glory, that he was going to take everybody out with him,” Duley said. The tape, released to the Times by the Maryland District Court in Frederick, is a recording of the recent hearing at which Duley successfully sought a restraining order against Dr. Ivins.

New York Times reporter Sarah Abruzzese obtained the tape Friday. The link to the 10-minute mp3 audiotape can be found on the left side of the page at: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/us/02scientist.html?hp#

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I wonder if Bruce Ivins was the one who really did it.  The FBI traced the anthrax to the bioweapons lab he worked in at Fort Detrick, but lots of people worked there besides him.  Of course, his attorney says that he's innocent, but what would one expect his attorney to say?  Earlier, John Ashcroft, the Attorney General at the time, identified Steven Hatfill as a "person of interest" in the case and Hatfill, who also worked at Fort Detrick in the bioweapons lab, sued the Justice Department, claiming his privacy rights were violated when his name was leaked to the media in connection with the ongoing federal investigation into the biological attacks. The Justice Department reached a settlement with Hatfill in June.  He is to receive a one-time payment of $2.8 million and $150,000 a year for life.






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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2008, 07:02:24 PM »
Even though the guys sounds pretty guilty, I hope the case doesn't get closed before they are 99.9999999% sure that Ivins did it. It just seems stupid to take the chance that as much of a whackjob Ivins was, he still may have been innocent.
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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2008, 07:02:55 PM »
That's a good deal for Hatfill. In Europe no-one would get an economic compensation like that for "just" being innocently suspected, no matter what he was innocently suspected for.


I think it's impossible to know whether Bruce Ivins did it or not.

 

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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2008, 07:50:42 PM »
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/021504/met_14825748.shtml

FBI asked trucker about whether he was 'Fallen Angel'


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By BINYAMIN APPELBAUM
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A Southside resident who spent years driving trucks and now crusades against what he calls a corrupt industry and a complacent government said Saturday he was questioned by FBI agents regarding the first of three incidents in which the toxin ricin was sent in the mail.

Daniel Somerson said the agents, from the FBI's terrorism task force, asked him in October whether he had sent a letter with ricin inside signed "Fallen Angel." He said he told them he had not even heard about the letter until that moment.

not me, but after the FBI showed up at his house I figured it was a good idea to not be creating waves about trucking issues, the guy is a total wack job and his web site slamming the trucking industry is gone and he vanished off trucker forums, maybe he is with Jimmy Hoffa


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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2008, 08:14:49 PM »
I think they wanted it over there is no way anyone will know for sure.  They will use this to close it up if it was him or not
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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 12:19:17 AM »
Here's another article that I saw:


Some of the remaining gaps in the FBI anthrax case

By The Associated Press
Tue Aug 5, 12:53 PM ET
 
In the week since the government's top suspect in the 2001 anthrax attacks committed suicide, a sometimes bizarre portrait of 62-year-old Army scientist Bruce Ivins has emerged. But while Ivins had access to the deadly toxin and his therapist's portrayal of him is haunting, there are a number of unanswered questions in the FBI's case against Ivins.
 
Some may be answered when the Justice Department unseals key documents detailing its evidence against Ivins. Others will remain unanswered, adding more uncertainty to an already mysterious case.

Below are some of the biggest unanswered questions in the "Amerithrax" case and the possible answers that have emerged so far.

Q: How could Ivins get access to powdered anthrax, since the biological warfare lab at Ft. Detrick did not deal with the toxin in that form?

A: There is no indication that authorities can prove Ivins made the powdered form of bacteria. Investigators say that in 2001, Ivins borrowed a device, known as a lyopholizer, capable of converting anthrax spores into powder. But some colleagues say it would have been difficult, if not impossible, for Ivins to do that unnoticed.

Q: How can the FBI link Ivins to the anthrax for certain?

A: The FBI used advanced DNA testing to track the anthrax that killed five people to a sample Ivins controlled, but as many as 12 others had access to it. It's unclear for now exactly how the FBI eliminated those others as suspects.

Q: What motive would Ivins have had to unleash an attack?

A: One investigative theory is that Ivins released the toxin as a way to test cures he was developing or a vaccine he had recently patented. But it's unclear whether the FBI can prove that. Ivins' therapist said the scientist had a history of homicidal and sociopath tendencies, but his friends say his mental deterioration was caused by the FBI's relentless pursuit.

Q: Did Ivins travel to Princeton, N.J., where the anthrax letters are believed to have been mailed?

A: Authorities cannot place Ivins in Princeton when the letters were mailed. And the only explanation for why he'd make the seven-hour round trip is bizarre. Authorities say Ivins was obsessed with the sorority Kappa Kappa Gamma, dating back to his own college days. The Princeton mailbox is not far from the school's sorority office and authorities say Ivins had made unexpected visits to the sorority at other schools.

Q: Why target media organizations and politicians?

A: The FBI's initial behavior analysis said it's unlikely that NBC News, the New York Post, then-Sen. Tom Daschle were selected randomly. Analysts said the targets "are probably very important to the offender" and may have been the focus of his contempt. There is no indication, for now at least, that Ivins demonstrated such feelings. Under the theory that Ivins was testing his cure, lawmakers and media might drum up attention for the importance of anthrax drugs, but it's unclear whether there's any evidence about that.

Q: Has the FBI matched handwriting samples from the letters?

A: FBI handwriting analysts described a distinct writing style on the envelopes and letters sent along with the anthrax. The letters were all capitalized and block-style. The names and addresses tilted downward from left to right. The word "cannot" was written as "can not." The numeral one was written quite formally. The writer selected dashes instead of slashes in the date "09-11-01." The FBI has seized numerous documents in the case but it's unclear whether the handwriting has been matched.


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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 12:35:53 AM »
Here's another article:

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FBI used aggressive tactics in anthrax probe

WASHINGTON - Before killing himself last week, Army scientist Bruce Ivins told friends that government agents had stalked him and his family for months, offered his son $2.5 million to rat him out and tried to turn his hospitalized daughter against him with photographs of dead anthrax victims.
 
The pressure on Ivins was extreme, a high-risk strategy that has failed the FBI before. The government was determined to find the villain in the 2001 anthrax attacks; it was too many years without a solution to the case that shocked and terrified a post-9/11 nation.

The last thing the FBI needed was another embarrassment. Overreaching damaged the FBI's reputation in the high-profile investigations: the Centennial Olympic Park bombing probe that falsely accused Richard Jewell; the theft of nuclear secrets and botched prosecution of scientist Wen Ho Lee; and, in this same anthrax probe, the smearing of an innocent man — Ivins' colleague Steven Hatfill.

In the current case, Ivins complained privately that FBI agents had offered his son, Andy, $2.5 million, plus "the sports car of his choice" late last year if he would turn over evidence implicating his father in the anthrax attacks, according to a former U.S. scientist who described himself as a friend of Ivins.

Ivins also said the FBI confronted Ivins' daughter, Amanda, with photographs of victims of the anthrax attacks and told her, "This is what your father did," according to the scientist, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because their conversation was confidential.

The scientist said Ivins was angered by the FBI's alleged actions, which he said included following Ivins' family on shopping trips.

Washington attorney Barry Coburn, who represents Amanda Ivins, declined to comment on the investigation. An attorney for Andy Ivins also declined to comment.

The FBI declined to describe its investigative techniques of Ivins.

FBI official John Miller said that "what we have seen over the past few days has been a mix of improper disclosures of partial information mixed with inaccurate information and then drawn into unfounded conclusions. None of that serves the victims, their families or the public."

The FBI "always moves aggressively to get to the bottom of the facts, but that does not include mistreatment of anybody and I don't know of any case where that's happened," said former FBI deputy director Weldon Kennedy, who was with the bureau for 34 years. "That doesn't mean that from time to time people don't make mistakes," he added.

Dr. W. Russell Byrne, a friend and former supervisor of Ivins at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Md., said he had heard from other Ivins associates that investigators were going after Ivins' daughter. But Byrne said those conversations were always short because people were afraid to talk.

"The FBI had asked everybody to sign these nondisclosure things," Byrne said. "They didn't want to run afoul of the FBI."

Byrne, who retired from the lab four years ago, said FBI agents interviewed him seven to 12 times since the investigation began — and he got off easy.

"I think I'm the only person at USAMRIID who didn't get polygraphed," he said.

Byrne said he was told by people who had recently worked with Ivins that the investigation had taken an emotional toll on the researcher. "One person said he'd sit at his desk and weep," he said.

Questions about the FBI's conduct come as the government takes steps that could signal an end to its investigation. On Wednesday, FBI officials plan to begin briefing family members of victims in the 2001 attacks.

The government is expected to declare the case solved but will keep it open for now, according to two U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. Several legal and investigatory matters need to be wrapped up before the case can officially be closed, they said.

Some questions may be answered when documents related to the case are released, as soon as Wednesday. For others, the answers may be incomplete, even bizarre. Some may simply never be answered.

It is unclear how the FBI eliminated as suspects others in the lab who had access to the anthrax. It's not clear what, if any, evidence bolsters the theory that the attacks may have been a twisted effort to test a cure for the toxin. Investigators also can't place Ivins in Princeton, N.J., when the letters were mailed from a mailbox there.

Richard Schuler, attorney for anthrax victim Robert Stevens' widow, Maureen Stevens, said his client will attend Wednesday's FBI briefing with a list of questions.

"No. 1 is, 'Did Bruce Ivins mail the anthrax that killed Robert Stevens?'" Schuler said, adding, "I've got healthy skepticism."

Critics of the bureau in and out of government say that in major cases, like the anthrax investigation, it can be difficult for the bureau to stop once it embarks on a single-minded pursuit of a suspect, with any internal dissenters shut out as disloyal subordinates.

Before the FBI focused on Ivins, its sights were set on Hatfill, whose career as a bioscientist was ruined after then-Attorney General John Ashcroft named him a "person of interest" in the probe.

Hatfill sued the agency, which recently agreed to pay Hatfill nearly $6 million to settle the lawsuit.

Complaints that the FBI behaved too aggressively conflict with its straight-laced, crime-fighting image of starched agents hunting terrorists.

During its focus on Hatfill, the FBI conducted what became known as "bumper lock surveillance," in which investigators trailed Hatfill so closely that he accused agents of running over his foot with their surveillance vehicle.

FBI agents showed up once to videotape Hatfill in a hotel hallway in Tyson's Corner, Va., when Hatfill was meeting with a prospective employer, according to FBI depositions filed in Hatfill's lawsuit against the government. He didn't get the job.

One of the FBI agents who helped run the anthrax investigation, Robert Roth, said FBI Director Robert Mueller had expressed frustration with the pace of the investigation. He also acknowledged that, under FBI guidelines, targets of surveillance aren't supposed to know they're being followed.

"Generally, it's supposed to be covert," Roth told lawyers in Hatfill's lawsuit.

In the 1996 Atlanta Olympic park bombing that dragged Jewell into the limelight, the security guard became the focus of the FBI probe for three months, after initially being hailed as a hero for moving people away from the bomb before it exploded.

The bomber turned out to be anti-government extremist Eric Rudolph, who also planted three other bombs in the Atlanta area and in Birmingham, Ala. Those explosives killed a police officer, maimed a nurse and injured several other people.

In another case, the FBI used as evidence the secrets that a person tells a therapist.

In the Wen Ho Lee case, Lee became the focus of a federal probe into how China may have obtained classified nuclear warhead blueprints. Prosecutors eventually charged him only with mishandling nuclear data, and held him for nine months. In what amounted to a collapse of the government's case, prosecutors agreed to a plea bargain in which Lee pleaded guilty to one of 59 counts.

In 2004, the FBI wrongly arrested lawyer Brandon Mayfield after the Madrid terrorist bombings, due to a misidentified fingerprint. The Justice Department's internal watchdog faulted the bureau for sloppy work. Spanish authorities had doubted the validity of the fingerprint match, but the U.S. government initiated a lengthy investigation, eventually settling with Mayfield for $2 million.


If Bruce Ivins turns out to have been innocent, then I think that his family should sue the FBI for hounding him to death.

He could really be guilty, though.  This is bugging me.

The FBI thought that Steven Hatfill was guilty before they focused in on Bruce Ivins, just like they were convinced that Richard Jewell was guilty of the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta when it was Eric Rudolph who actually did it, as well as bombing an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama.

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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 06:45:19 AM »
I read that too and find it disturbing the lengths the FBI will go to sometimes.
"Eat it up.  Wear it out.  Make it do or do without." 

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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 10:37:38 AM »
Here's another article that I saw:


Some of the remaining gaps in the FBI anthrax case

By The Associated Press
Tue Aug 5, 12:53 PM ET
 
In the week since the government's top suspect in the 2001 anthrax attacks committed suicide, a sometimes bizarre portrait of 62-year-old Army scientist Bruce Ivins has emerged. But while Ivins had access to the deadly toxin and his therapist's portrayal of him is haunting, there are a number of unanswered questions in the FBI's case against Ivins.
 
Some may be answered when the Justice Department unseals key documents detailing its evidence against Ivins. Others will remain unanswered, adding more uncertainty to an already mysterious case.

Below are some of the biggest unanswered questions in the "Amerithrax" case and the possible answers that have emerged so far.

Q: How could Ivins get access to powdered anthrax, since the biological warfare lab at Ft. Detrick did not deal with the toxin in that form?

A: There is no indication that authorities can prove Ivins made the powdered form of bacteria. Investigators say that in 2001, Ivins borrowed a device, known as a lyopholizer, capable of converting anthrax spores into powder. But some colleagues say it would have been difficult, if not impossible, for Ivins to do that unnoticed.

Q: How can the FBI link Ivins to the anthrax for certain?

A: The FBI used advanced DNA testing to track the anthrax that killed five people to a sample Ivins controlled, but as many as 12 others had access to it. It's unclear for now exactly how the FBI eliminated those others as suspects.

Q: What motive would Ivins have had to unleash an attack?

A: One investigative theory is that Ivins released the toxin as a way to test cures he was developing or a vaccine he had recently patented. But it's unclear whether the FBI can prove that. Ivins' therapist said the scientist had a history of homicidal and sociopath tendencies, but his friends say his mental deterioration was caused by the FBI's relentless pursuit.

Q: Did Ivins travel to Princeton, N.J., where the anthrax letters are believed to have been mailed?

A: Authorities cannot place Ivins in Princeton when the letters were mailed. And the only explanation for why he'd make the seven-hour round trip is bizarre. Authorities say Ivins was obsessed with the sorority Kappa Kappa Gamma, dating back to his own college days. The Princeton mailbox is not far from the school's sorority office and authorities say Ivins had made unexpected visits to the sorority at other schools.

Q: Why target media organizations and politicians?

A: The FBI's initial behavior analysis said it's unlikely that NBC News, the New York Post, then-Sen. Tom Daschle were selected randomly. Analysts said the targets "are probably very important to the offender" and may have been the focus of his contempt. There is no indication, for now at least, that Ivins demonstrated such feelings. Under the theory that Ivins was testing his cure, lawmakers and media might drum up attention for the importance of anthrax drugs, but it's unclear whether there's any evidence about that.

Q: Has the FBI matched handwriting samples from the letters?

A: FBI handwriting analysts described a distinct writing style on the envelopes and letters sent along with the anthrax. The letters were all capitalized and block-style. The names and addresses tilted downward from left to right. The word "cannot" was written as "can not." The numeral one was written quite formally. The writer selected dashes instead of slashes in the date "09-11-01." The FBI has seized numerous documents in the case but it's unclear whether the handwriting has been matched.


I hope the documents released reveal more about motive, and a stronger connection between Ivins and the letters.
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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 05:28:39 PM »
I hope the documents released reveal more about motive, and a stronger connection between Ivins and the letters.

That is my hope as well.

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Re: Anthrax suspect, scientist, kills self as FBI closes in
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2008, 10:56:23 PM »
Even though the guys sounds pretty guilty, I hope the case doesn't get closed before they are 99.9999999% sure that Ivins did it. It just seems stupid to take the chance that as much of a whackjob Ivins was, he still may have been innocent.
I don't want it closed either. That was one majorly fucked up crime spree.