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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2008, 01:25:33 PM »
Quote from: IlluSionS667 on July 15, 2008, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: TheoK on July 15, 2008, 09:41:34 AM
Can't turn on the volume? Why?

Walls have ears.

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Quote from: IlluSionS667 on July 14, 2008, 05:08:38 AM
Most nationalists that I know are actually ultra-nationalists. Hell, I even met David Duke when he last visited my country.

Meeting David Duke must have been such an honor for you, Illusion.

I have somewhat mixed feelings about him. On one hand I admire him for standing up against Jewish supremacism in the US and for being a skillful orator, while on the other hand I question his character for eg. having been a member of the KKK and having a girlfriend who could be his daughter.

Quote from: TheoK on July 15, 2008, 09:41:34 AM
The problem is that the "decent" politicians in Europe and America won't discuss the matter of immigration at all. If you don't like mass immigration and want something done about it, you simply have to vote for people like David Duke.

True. When everyone is corrupted, someone like David Duke seems to be the lesser evil.

Paranoid much :orly:
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2008, 01:34:02 PM »
Would a paranoid person express views on the net that are illegal in his country?
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2008, 01:35:16 PM »
Most probably not.
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2008, 01:42:27 PM »
Then who's ears are you worried about
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2008, 02:05:43 PM »
Sometimes I'm in public when I use my laptop. If I become a pariah because of my views on the Internet, I can always move to another online community when I get tired of it. On the train, on the bus, at the office, among friends or just anywhere else in daily life it's a bit harder, so I tend to share my views only with who I know to be openminded enough to deal with it or those who share them.

People like myself are way too often treated like Jews were treated in the Third Reich (antisemitism did exist in the Third Reich, unlike genocide). Like the Jews had to hide they were Jews, nationalists and traditionalists have to do pretty much the same.
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2008, 02:27:40 PM »
Quote from: IlluSionS667 on July 15, 2008, 01:34:02 PM
Would a paranoid person express views on the net that are illegal in his country?

Would a paranoid person start using a proxy about two cuntiseconds after the webmaster told him he'd report that person to his ISP?

Enjoy the proxy.
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2008, 05:14:45 PM »
I don't know about a paranoid person, but anyone with some common sense would use a proxy in the position you've put me. Not that I believe it would make much of a difference, but why should I take the risk?
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2008, 06:00:39 PM »
Quote from: odeon on July 15, 2008, 02:27:40 PM
Quote from: IlluSionS667 on July 15, 2008, 01:34:02 PM
Would a paranoid person express views on the net that are illegal in his country?

Would a paranoid person start using a proxy about two cuntiseconds after the webmaster told him he'd report that person to his ISP?

Enjoy the proxy.

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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2008, 06:09:05 PM »
Quote from: IlluSionS667 on July 15, 2008, 05:14:45 PM
I don't know about a paranoid person, but anyone with some common sense would use a proxy in the position you've put me. Not that I believe it would make much of a difference, but why should I take the risk?

It doesn't make any difference. Your IP addresses were logged.
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2008, 06:54:55 PM »
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2008, 07:01:23 PM »
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It doesn't make any difference. Your IP addresses were logged.

What makes you any better than the Germans who turned in Jews to the Gestapo? You're doing pretty much the same thing here, just in a different era and a with a different regime.
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2008, 07:30:51 PM »
While I do not agree with the guy, reporting him to his ISP is pathetic.
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2008, 07:39:47 PM »
Quote from: Alex179 on July 15, 2008, 07:30:51 PM
While I do not agree with the guy, reporting him to his ISP is pathetic.

Not really, we have to follow the laws of whatever country allows I2 to be seen.    The UK is particularly strict about such things, hell if they find the porn on here against their laws, I2 could be shut down there.  I have no ideas about what the internet laws are in Sweden, but, if Odeon doesn't do anything, we could find the site shut down there.  So reporting the ISP is not pathetic, just common sense to preserve I2 for the  rest of us.  Not just a "one trick pony".   If the ISP decides this is "bad', then it's their turf.

I'm not the most cyber literate guy in the world, but, I do know that laws and rules are coming up that WE need to be aware of before stuff like this becomes the death knell of free speech anywhere on the internet. 

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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2008, 07:47:38 PM »
That is already the death knell of free speech on the internet.   You should be able to say whatever you want, wherever you want.   I2 is allowed to be seen in every country, other than possibly the firewall of China blocking the site.   So does that mean we are bound by the laws of Iran as far as censorship goes?   The Iranian government would agree with Illusion quite a bit lol.

Isn't this site hosted in the US?   I know Odeon is in Sweden, but I thought the hosting company was in the US.
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Re: European indigenous people's movement
« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2008, 07:55:01 PM »
If the hosting company is in the US, it's American law that is applicable. Normally American law is much more tolerant than European laws when it comes to freedom of speech.
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