all of the above still misses the point, mcj. it's not about people having a voice, or whether to make stuff public or not, or anything else you've stated above. it's about people having very little information on which to form opinions, and then being told their opinions are wrong/not viable/damaging/silencing others, when they've asked for more info, and not got it.
from the start, the whole thing was confused, with hiro apparently talkig to himself, you accusing him of all sorts without giving any reason why, etc., etc.
let's start again, and then we can stop getting ourselves any deeper into the confused shit this has turned into: your quoting me shows me that there's a miscommunication going on somewhere, as what i've said above has nothing to do with what i said in the quotations.
this sounds like a hipocritical statement. it seems like people need details and that is just perverse. especially when there is enough information on the boards to formulate a reasonable assessment of the situation.
not my problem if you remain fixed in your selective understanding mode.
not my fault if you are not a person who backs up their words, when it falls outside of your specific agenda.
hmmmm.
you make me curious about so many things.
back off, mcj - you're attacking both PI and me, and i'm not even sure why, although i suspect you believe we're saying something we're not, or attacking you or those you're defending, and neither of us is doing so. that's why i said "stop, and let's start again".
i'm not asking you to reveal details. i am merely trying to explain why people were curious as to why someone was asked to leave intensity (as they saw it), and then responded assertively after you launched into them.
you may continue to bully me if you wish, lucifer
why do you feel bullied, mcj? i'm not bullying you, just trying to look at the situation and see where the "short circuit" is. interesting that you feel bullied, though, as that says more about you than it does about me. i'm just being speaking assertively. feeling attacked?
since i am not going to reveal my hand to you or anybody else in public. why should i? would you, if you were doing your best to represent the voiceless crowd. would you get a little irate if someone was posting OUT Of PLACE, and put those goals in jeopardy.
not asking you to. read my posts again.
i highly doubt that yopu wouldn't as it seems you profess to be (thus the hipocricy).
at least when i had a series of questions for you, and your replies were doubletalk and ambiguous, i had the courrtesy to drop it and take you at your ambiguous word for it.
sorry - don't get this bit at all. could you rephrase it, please?
make up your mind lucifer, which side of the fence are you going to sit on. and just because i have the propensity to act a bit immature at times doesn't make mine a less noble venture than what you claim yours are.
no idea why you're going at me here, mcj, but it ain't working, and i'll just wait until you've got your tantrum about me out of the way (yet again), as i haven't got an axe to grind with you about this.
furthermore, i know you quit smoking, but why don't you put that in your pipe and smoke it?
or do you prefer apples?
no idea what that means either.
so, to summarise: i'm not asking you to reveal any information which is confidential, or which people have requested that you keep out of the public eye. i am, however, asking that you consider how people will feel if you (and hiro) keep zipping round the board talking about stuff which most other members have little or no idea about, whether or not it's right, wrong, desirable, whatever, that they SHOULD know what's going on. human nature - people don't know something, and it's been hyped up as much as you two have made it, then people are going to want to know.
that make things clearer?
