What is the point of homosexuality?

[Sophgay]

Also I don't think environment has anything to do with it. In my opinion you're either gay or you aren't. It might for fake gays and some bis it's become society standard for many straight people to say they're bi because it's "trendy".

[Calandale]

My point is, that some people may be born predisposed to being gay.  They might however not discover it due to circumstances.  Therefore they would think of themselves as straight.

The last time I had this discussion lol was in a gay club with a gay guy.

yeah but that doesn't mean that they're straight
obviously a lot of people don't realise they're gay, but that doesn't change the fact that they are

Well, this is getting into a tricky realm, because if
you don't notice that you mind being with the opposite
sex, and don't notice that you are attracted to the same,
how can you be labeled gay?

Bi, maybe. But here, we're at the argument of whether everyone
is actually bi, with leanings.

[Calandale]

i was born ghey

Come here, young man.

[richard]

enviroment probably plays a role aswell

[Sophgay]

whats the cause? pleasure obviously. if your miserable liking the opposite sex what fun is there in that?

That's not the cause though.
That's the effect.

i happen to think that some people are just born ghey, i doubt anyone would choose to be ghey under the hospitable conditions most homos have to face, it would be alot easier to be streight.

I think it's a mixture of genes and experiences.

Sexuality is so complex though.  I don't think it could be lumped into just three holes:  heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual.  I much prefer Kinsey's scale.

I don't think categorising people like that is any good at all
Doesn't work for me anyway

[Persona]

I think the enviroment HAS something to do with it.

[Persona]

How do I switch off that bloody post reminder thingy? 

[Calandale]

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position

Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.

What's not that simple? I wasn't suggesting it was simple. The opposite actually.
I'm not speaking with any limitations either

I know. I CAN read what you write.
The idea of a 'gay gene' is terribly simplistic,
and I presume the work of the religious, stating
that such hasn't been 'found' so homosexuality
is choice, or some such.

As to limitations, it's unlikely. Who one is always affects
one's arguments. I think my vantage on this makes
me less likely to be so affected.

Not necessarily
I'm not gay

I realize that, but what you are
makes you more involved than I am, I would say.

[richard]

the way you were brought up i mean, most people who were abused sexually as kids have fucked up sexual identities

[Sophgay]

My point is, that some people may be born predisposed to being gay.  They might however not discover it due to circumstances.  Therefore they would think of themselves as straight.

The last time I had this discussion lol was in a gay club with a gay guy.

yeah but that doesn't mean that they're straight
obviously a lot of people don't realise they're gay, but that doesn't change the fact that they are

Well, this is getting into a tricky realm, because if
you don't notice that you mind being with the opposite
sex, and don't notice that you are attracted to the same,
how can you be labeled gay?

Bi, maybe. But here, we're at the argument of whether everyone
is actually bi, with leanings.

Well then you're not gay
Either you're gay, or you're not
A lot of it comes down to being in denial
Usually when someone just "doesn't notice" that they're gay, it's because of denial

[Persona]

You say you don't like categories but you yourself just used them.  You know, it is possible for people to be more gay or less gay.

[richard]

i think someone can be both, certainly some days i like girls ALOT more than others, but i defintly dont think im confused

[Sophgay]

You say you don't like categories but you yourself just used them.  You know, it is possible for people to be more gay or less gay.

I didn't say I don't like using them at all
I said it's not enough for me
You can be "more or less gay", but you're still whatever you are, whether that's gay or straight, anywhere in between or anything else

[Calandale]

Also I don't think environment has anything to do with it. In my opinion you're either gay or you aren't. It might for fake gays and some bis it's become society standard for many straight people to say they're bi because it's "trendy".

I don't know about this. Again, I'm of the opinion that
there is a spectrum, and no one is purely anything. I have
almost no attraction to males, but have acted on what I
have, a bit. I consider myself straight, but could easily see
becoming much more bi, under different circumstances
(say I found a male who really attracted me, or was slipped
into it, through a female who really wanted a particular triad).

I've always seen it as a matter of taste. Fat women disinterest
me a great deal more than those who are close to my taste, but
of my own gender. But, that's just me.

[Mr Smith]

the way you were brought up i mean, most people who were abused sexually as kids have fucked up sexual identities

Maybe so, but that doesn't make them a true homosexual.