What is the point of homosexuality?

[Sophgay]

You are not getting my point.

Me?
What was your point?

[Mr Smith]

No, hereditary things are about traits that are passed on in the genes. Mutations are not.

Aspergers I believe, is hereditary, homosexuality is a mutation.

[Calandale]

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position

Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.

[Persona]

My point is, that some people may be born predisposed to being gay.  They might however not discover it due to circumstances.  Therefore they would think of themselves as straight.

The last time I had this discussion lol was in a gay club with a gay guy.

[Dexter Morgan]

I guess there is a Malthusian aspect to accepting homosexuality, birth control, and abortion.  Many of the countries that have used this have small or negative population growth.  As a result, they have to have more liberal immigration policies to remain economically competitive.

[Sophgay]

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position

Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.

What's not that simple? I wasn't suggesting it was simple. The opposite actually.
I'm not speaking with any limitations either

[Calandale]

No, hereditary things are about traits that are passed on in the genes. Mutations are not.

Aspergers I believe, is hereditary, homosexuality is a mutation.

Huh?

Mutations are highly unlikely to create such
changes. And, most mutations are genetic.

I like soph's hypothesis better, that there's physical circumstances
which trigger it, rather than try and rely on mutation to explain it.
Mutation is a hell of a hammer to make such minor changes with.

[Sophgay]

My point is, that some people may be born predisposed to being gay.  They might however not discover it due to circumstances.  Therefore they would think of themselves as straight.

The last time I had this discussion lol was in a gay club with a gay guy.

yeah but that doesn't mean that they're straight
obviously a lot of people don't realise they're gay, but that doesn't change the fact that they are

[richard]

whats the cause? pleasure obviously. if your miserable liking the opposite sex what fun is there in that?

That's not the cause though.
That's the effect.

i happen to think that some people are just born ghey, i doubt anyone would choose to be ghey under the hospitable conditions most homos have to face, it would be alot easier to be streight.

[Sophgay]

i was born ghey

[Calandale]

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position

Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.

What's not that simple? I wasn't suggesting it was simple. The opposite actually.
I'm not speaking with any limitations either

I know. I CAN read what you write.
The idea of a 'gay gene' is terribly simplistic,
and I presume the work of the religious, stating
that such hasn't been 'found' so homosexuality
is choice, or some such.

As to limitations, it's unlikely. Who one is always affects
one's arguments. I think my vantage on this makes
me less likely to be so affected.

[Sophgay]

i meant "not genetic" in terms of the Gay Gene people talk about
A lot of anti-gay, religious people use that (or the lack of it) to justify their position

Hah. Nothing's that simple.

As someone who is pretty much unconcerned about
any ramifications of what we're discussing, I feel free to
speak without such limitation.

What's not that simple? I wasn't suggesting it was simple. The opposite actually.
I'm not speaking with any limitations either

I know. I CAN read what you write.
The idea of a 'gay gene' is terribly simplistic,
and I presume the work of the religious, stating
that such hasn't been 'found' so homosexuality
is choice, or some such.

As to limitations, it's unlikely. Who one is always affects
one's arguments. I think my vantage on this makes
me less likely to be so affected.

Not necessarily
I'm not gay

[richard]

i was born ghey

i was born half ghey LOL

[Mr Smith]

No, hereditary things are about traits that are passed on in the genes. Mutations are not.

Aspergers I believe, is hereditary, homosexuality is a mutation.

Huh?

Mutations are highly unlikely to create such
changes. And, most mutations are genetic.

I like soph's hypothesis better, that there's physical circumstances
which trigger it, rather than try and rely on mutation to explain it.
Mutation is a hell of a hammer to make such minor changes with.

Yeah no kidding, Everyone is a mutant in some way or another. It's probably a specific set of genes combined with the environment in the womb. There would have to be a lot of mutated genes or a specific patten to take any effect though. But It's possible. Mutations have effects in phenotypes often, even if they don't more.

Also I don't think environment has anything to do with it. In my opinion you're either gay or you aren't. It might for fake gays and some bis it's become society standard for many straight people to say they're bi because it's "trendy".

[Persona]

whats the cause? pleasure obviously. if your miserable liking the opposite sex what fun is there in that?

That's not the cause though.
That's the effect.

i happen to think that some people are just born ghey, i doubt anyone would choose to be ghey under the hospitable conditions most homos have to face, it would be alot easier to be streight.

I think it's a mixture of genes and experiences.

Sexuality is so complex though.  I don't think it could be lumped into just three holes:  heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual.  I much prefer Kinsey's scale.