Father-Daugther incestous couple have come out

[Calandale]

Have a look at the book of Leviticus in old testament there is two verses (Leviticus 18:22) and (Leviticus 20:13) banning homosexual relations between men, while there are a lot more banning various forms of incest.

Still, the bible NEVER condones homosexual relations,
whilst it does indicate a couple of cases of incest, without
any rebuke (Lot, for example).

[Sophgay]

He'd be a man though
Gay parents don't have to be "the mom and the dad"
So he wouldn't be introducing his mom steve... he'd be introducing his other dad, steve

[Calandale]

Gee, is something dawning? 

So then he wouldn't have a mom called Steve

Taking lessons in being dense?

No. YOU are the one being dense. I know exactly what you're saying.
But "Steve" wouldn't be the kid's mom
He'd have 2 dads

Pretty ridiculous stance from someone who accepts
the redefinition of gender. I think your case would be
stronger, had I said mother, but mom is a slang term
anyhow.

Anyhow, my point stands, regardless of the semantics behind
the word 'mom'.

[Sophgay]

Gee, is something dawning? 

So then he wouldn't have a mom called Steve

Taking lessons in being dense?

No. YOU are the one being dense. I know exactly what you're saying.
But "Steve" wouldn't be the kid's mom
He'd have 2 dads

Pretty ridiculous stance from someone who accepts
the redefinition of gender. I think your case would be
stronger, had I said mother, but mom is a slang term
anyhow.

Anyhow, my point stands, regardless of the semantics behind
the word 'mom'.

Why is it a ridiculous stance?
You're calling someone a mom, just because the couple are gay
Mom and mother mean prettty much the same thing to me

[Calandale]

He'd be a man though
Gay parents don't have to be "the mom and the dad"
So he wouldn't be introducing his mom steve... he'd be introducing his other dad, steve

How the fuck do you know? Yeah, they don't HAVE to
be anything. It could be "my dad, and his roomate"
or hell, his fuckbuddy. It doesn't make much difference
though - it's either hidden (as incest likely would be)
or going to cause some difficulty.

And, if we all got used to incest as more 'normal' it
would be the same.

[Calandale]

Why is it a ridiculous stance?

If you can redefine words to suit your needs,
I can do so, as well. The meaning was clear.

You're calling someone a mom, just because the couple are gay
Mom and mother mean prettty much the same thing to me

No. I'm looking at it as a role, rather than as
a biological mother. By your definition, one
couldn't have an adopted mother, I think.

Or, is the role of 'mother' so gender specific
that it can't be defined according to the
tastes of the people involved? THAT would
be hypocrisy.

[SovaNu]

but i loike stevette, mayte.

[Sophgay]

Why is it a ridiculous stance?

If you can redefine words to suit your needs,
I can do so, as well. The meaning was clear.

You're calling someone a mom, just because the couple are gay
Mom and mother mean prettty much the same thing to me

No. I'm looking at it as a role, rather than as
a biological mother. By your definition, one
couldn't have an adopted mother, I think.

Or, is the role of 'mother' so gender specific
that it can't be defined according to the
tastes of the people involved? THAT would
be hypocrisy.

I was responding to you implying that there needed to be a "mom" and a "dad"
How would YOU know that they'd be introducing them as their mom?
It's more likely they'd be introducing them as their dad, as not many men are "moms"

And since when did I redefine words to suit my needs?

[Sophgay]

And of course someone can have an adopted mother. I don't think biology has anything to do with it

[Calandale]

Why is it a ridiculous stance?

If you can redefine words to suit your needs,
I can do so, as well. The meaning was clear.

You're calling someone a mom, just because the couple are gay
Mom and mother mean prettty much the same thing to me

No. I'm looking at it as a role, rather than as
a biological mother. By your definition, one
couldn't have an adopted mother, I think.

Or, is the role of 'mother' so gender specific
that it can't be defined according to the
tastes of the people involved? THAT would
be hypocrisy.

I was responding to you implying that there needed to be a "mom" and a "dad"
How would YOU know that they'd be introducing them as their mom?
It's more likely they'd be introducing them as their dad, as not many men are "moms"

I didn't say there needed to be.
But, the difficulty, no matter how
it's handled, is obvious. I went for
the most humorous example, in order
to make my point clear.

You should learn humor. Not as a crutch in
fighting, but to present some issues. It's useful.

And since when did I redefine words to suit my needs?

Not just you. But, as I've contended, 'gender' has been redefined.

[Sophgay]

You should learn humor. Not as a crutch in
fighting, but to present some issues. It's useful.

I have my own sense of humour, thanks
I don't particularly like yours, most of the time

Not just you. But, as I've contended, 'gender' has been redefined.

In what way have I redefined anything for my own needs?

[Calandale]

And of course someone can have an adopted mother. I don't think biology has anything to do with it

IF biology has nothing to do with it,
then how does gender (by it's original
meaning) - or if you prefer to misuse
the word, sex?

[Sophgay]

And of course someone can have an adopted mother. I don't think biology has anything to do with it

IF biology has nothing to do with it,
then how does gender (by it's original
meaning) - or if you prefer to misuse
the word, sex?

I don't misuse the word gender
Sex has nothing to do with it

[Calandale]

You should learn humor. Not as a crutch in
fighting, but to present some issues. It's useful.

I have my own sense of humour, thanks
I don't particularly like yours, most of the time

Since such is pretty standard, you ought to
learn to understand it, even if not appreciate.

Not just you. But, as I've contended, 'gender' has been redefined.

In what way have I redefined anything for my own needs?

You accepted this travesty. It's no better than calling the Near East
the Middle East.

[SovaNu]

what about Mister Mom!?