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Quote from: Harris' Hawk on April 07, 2008, 03:44:54 PMQuote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 03:29:31 PMAnd of course someone can have an adopted mother. I don't think biology has anything to do with itIF biology has nothing to do with it,then how does gender (by it's originalmeaning) - or if you prefer to misusethe word, sex?I don't misuse the word genderSex has nothing to do with it
Quote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 03:29:31 PMAnd of course someone can have an adopted mother. I don't think biology has anything to do with itIF biology has nothing to do with it,then how does gender (by it's originalmeaning) - or if you prefer to misusethe word, sex?
And of course someone can have an adopted mother. I don't think biology has anything to do with it
what about Mister Mom!?
Quote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 03:34:37 PMQuote from: Harris' Hawk on April 07, 2008, 03:32:33 PMYou should learn humor. Not as a crutch in fighting, but to present some issues. It's useful.I have my own sense of humour, thanksI don't particularly like yours, most of the timeSince such is pretty standard, you ought tolearn to understand it, even if not appreciate.QuoteQuoteNot just you. But, as I've contended, 'gender' has been redefined.In what way have I redefined anything for my own needs?You accepted this travesty. It's no better than calling the Near East the Middle East.
Quote from: Harris' Hawk on April 07, 2008, 03:32:33 PMYou should learn humor. Not as a crutch in fighting, but to present some issues. It's useful.I have my own sense of humour, thanksI don't particularly like yours, most of the time
You should learn humor. Not as a crutch in fighting, but to present some issues. It's useful.
QuoteNot just you. But, as I've contended, 'gender' has been redefined.In what way have I redefined anything for my own needs?
Not just you. But, as I've contended, 'gender' has been redefined.
Quote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: Harris' Hawk on April 07, 2008, 03:44:54 PMQuote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 03:29:31 PMAnd of course someone can have an adopted mother. I don't think biology has anything to do with itIF biology has nothing to do with it,then how does gender (by it's originalmeaning) - or if you prefer to misusethe word, sex?I don't misuse the word genderSex has nothing to do with itSo, stop objecting to a mom named steve,who happens to be male.
Gender is not sex. They are both two different things.
Quote from: Harris' Hawk on April 07, 2008, 03:47:27 PMQuote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: Harris' Hawk on April 07, 2008, 03:44:54 PMQuote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 03:29:31 PMAnd of course someone can have an adopted mother. I don't think biology has anything to do with itIF biology has nothing to do with it,then how does gender (by it's originalmeaning) - or if you prefer to misusethe word, sex?I don't misuse the word genderSex has nothing to do with itSo, stop objecting to a mom named steve,who happens to be male.I don';t care, if Steve identifies as a womanIt was your suggestion that he would be "the mom" just because the other was male too, that I was responding to
Quote from: Lemon Pancakes on April 07, 2008, 04:50:28 AMthe couple had a healthy baby first and the second died.No, their first child died and their second child lived.QuoteDistrict Court sentencing judge Steven Millsteed said the first count of incest was based on an act of sexual intercourse which resulted in the birth of the couple's first child.The second count of incest related to an act of sexual intercourse which resulted in the birth of their second child in May last year."The first child was born in 2001 but died a few days after birth due to a congenital heart disease," Judge Millsteed said.Peter said: QuoteDr. Carl Olstrom, a Swedish psychiatrist experienced in the study of fetal deformity resulting from incest, reports: "There is no evidence to support the assumption that children resulting from incestuous relationships run a greater risk of being malformed than other children." However, the rest of the quote said: QuoteOther, smaller studies have shown serious birth defects in up to one fourth of all children who were conceived through bloodline incest, an incidence that is about fifteen times the expected normal frequency.
the couple had a healthy baby first and the second died.
District Court sentencing judge Steven Millsteed said the first count of incest was based on an act of sexual intercourse which resulted in the birth of the couple's first child.The second count of incest related to an act of sexual intercourse which resulted in the birth of their second child in May last year."The first child was born in 2001 but died a few days after birth due to a congenital heart disease," Judge Millsteed said.
Dr. Carl Olstrom, a Swedish psychiatrist experienced in the study of fetal deformity resulting from incest, reports: "There is no evidence to support the assumption that children resulting from incestuous relationships run a greater risk of being malformed than other children."
Other, smaller studies have shown serious birth defects in up to one fourth of all children who were conceived through bloodline incest, an incidence that is about fifteen times the expected normal frequency.
14:10 - Moarskrillex42: She said something about knowing why I wanted to move to Glasgow when she came in. She plopped down on my bed and told me to go ahead and open it for her.14:11 - Peter5930: So, she thought I was your lover and that I was sending you a box full of sex toys, and that you wanted to move to Glasgow to be with me?
Quote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 03:51:05 PMGender is not sex. They are both two different things.Indeed. Gender is the seperation BASED upon sex.
Quote from: Harris' Hawk on April 07, 2008, 03:56:59 PMQuote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 03:51:05 PMGender is not sex. They are both two different things.Indeed. Gender is the seperation BASED upon sex.UsuallyIndividually, it is not always based upon sex
There's no clear evidence that gender is a social construct?
Quote from: Soph on April 07, 2008, 04:29:56 PMThere's no clear evidence that gender is a social construct?Uhm...THAT would be a complete redefinition.Exactly why I object.
I agree though. I hate the way they try to heterosexualise gay couples, saying there should be a "mum" and a "dad". For example with lesbians, the butch with the girly one.
Also I think this discussion is quite pointless. Each one has their own beliefs that they are most unlikly to budge from. Same as talking to a bunch of homophobes. Not that I'm comparing any of you to them.