Torture in the US

[Parts]

Back then if you where not of the right background you where not considered human anyway

I don't know how different it is now.

We like to pretend it is but for many sadly it isn't

[Calandale]

Cruel is a matter of prospective
I'd import ham and beer for all their meals

You know, the Christian pogroms did similar stuff,
and are now viewed as ethnic cleansing.

[Persona]

What about the partitions of Poland?

I mean, at one point it even stopped existing on the map.

[Parts]

Cruel is a matter of prospective
I'd import ham and beer for all their meals

You know, the Christian pogroms did similar stuff,
and are now viewed as ethnic cleansing.

if they want to live they have plenty of food and wouldn't be cleansed

[Calandale]

Cruel is a matter of prospective
I'd import ham and beer for all their meals

You know, the Christian pogroms did similar stuff,
and are now viewed as ethnic cleansing.

if they want to live they have plenty of food and wouldn't be cleansed

Talk about repudiating the best in human nature.
Sounds like something Stalin could have said about
the collective farms. Or anyone from the inquisition.

There are things more important than life to some.
Frankly, I see that as noble. I can't assure myself that
I am so, but I sure the hell am not about to disparage
those who do.

Far better than most in the US, I'd presume. I don't care
if they are misguided.

[Parts]

I do have a mean streak that runs rather deep and can be very harsh at times

[Calandale]

Is it more noble to violate the standards of
decency for some 'purpose' or merely for pleasure?

I prefer the latter.

[Parts]

Is it more noble to violate the standards of
decency for some 'purpose' or merely for pleasure?

I prefer the latter.

I'm with you on that one

[Pyraxis]

Pleasure is a purpose.

[Calandale]

So, one shouldn't be incensed about the 'threat'
and value torture for it, but rather, merely appreciate
the look of pleasure on the torturer's face.

I thought that girl in the pics was kinda hot.
Until they showed her in other circumstances.

Kinda reminds me of how I feel about some
musicians.

[Calandale]

Pleasure is a purpose.

As is aesthetics. But, these get short shift
in real world discussions. Perhaps they are
the more important.

[Pyraxis]

I don't think so. I don't see pleasure as separate from any kind of "real" world. Nor are aesthetics.

[Calandale]

Governments do.

[Pyraxis]

How so?

[Calandale]

They value things like economic considerations
and political and military ones much more highly.

There are few laws passed merely for 'happiness'.