My NPD

[Kosmonaut]

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance.

and

7. lacks empathy.

Actually, I wouldn't answer Yes, for Number1 all the time. But i do have my moments.
Could probably say the same for Number7 come to think of it. My empathy is very selective.

[Calandale]

How can you have 1 and not 3?

[Kosmonaut]

I don't really understand question 3.
But i don't think ideas of specialness and uniqueness are contingent upon delusions of grandeur; although that probably helps.
It depends upon how you define special and unique.
There are many other people with delusions of grandeur; it's hardly a special quality.
But I may consider myself unique because there is only one of me.

[Calandale]

How can you have the delusions of grandeur,
without believing that you are special? Wouldn't
they just be fantasies then?

[Kosmonaut]

How can you have the delusions of grandeur,
without believing that you are special? Wouldn't
they just be fantasies then?

It's not like I choose the delusions; in fact I may be unaware of them for sometime; moreover some people never gain this insight.
Hence there is no need for any belief system.
If you are choosing which delusions to believe, then you are probably quite sane and not deluded at all, merely fantasizing. I don't mean this in a philosophical sense more in terms of medical diagnosis of states such as psychosis and mania.

[Calandale]

So, you have delusions of mediocrity?

[Kosmonaut]

No, I'm merely stating that a belief system of any kind is not necessary for any kind of delusion.

[Calandale]

Seems necessary on both ends. Both the
deluded and the judges.

[Tristeza]

Cal, do you think you've ever met the criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder?  I think I did when I was younger.  I was raised by my father, and he admits he has it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

[Kosmonaut]

Seems necessary on both ends. Both the
deluded and the judges.

Probably best not to apply inference of belief systems to delusion. ( Do you see why? )
Although Neuro Linguistic Programming attempts to, it has no success beyond stage hypnotism.

This is why 1 and 3 are not completely dependant.

eg. If your television is giving you 'special' messages, then you may be the best logician in the world, but it's not going to stop the telly from giving you messages even if your belief system is that televisions are not talking to you personally.

[Calandale]

Cal, do you think you've ever met the criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder?  I think I did when I was younger.  I was raised by my father, and he admits he has it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

   1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest.

Probably not. Consider more than I do.

   2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure

no.

   3. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead

Hmm...I worry a LOT. Don't know if that's planning.
Probably LESS impulsive than most.

   4. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults

maybe, at one time.
I was never too aggressive though.

   5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others

no.

   6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honour financial obligations

I guess.

   7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.

Likely.

Again, a close call.

[Calandale]

Probably best not to apply inference of belief systems to delusion. ( Do you see why? )

No. My delusions may well stem from my shaky beliefs. Or the
other way. I can't really tell, since I don't know what is the cause.
But, surely my sensory input is somehow responsible for forming me?

eg. If your television is giving you 'special' messages, then you may be the best logician in the world, but it's not going to stop the telly from giving you messages even if your belief system is that televisions are not talking to you personally.

But, this isn't a delusion of grandeur. If I believe that I am the one, doesn't that
make me 'special'?
am not (from an objective point of view)
the center

[Tristeza]

Yeah, the antisocial disorder is a close call for us both.  The AS is probably what's kept us from really developing it.   

[Calandale]

Yeah, the antisocial disorder is a close call for us both.  The AS is probably what's kept us from really developing it.   

I don't know. AS seems related, in the sense of reacting. I doubt I'd be
anywhere near as violent, if I hadn't been teased a great deal. The
'irresponsibility' seems directly connected to my problems with dealing
with people.

[Tristeza]

Yeah, the antisocial disorder is a close call for us both.  The AS is probably what's kept us from really developing it.   

I don't know. AS seems related, in the sense of reacting. I doubt I'd be
anywhere near as violent, if I hadn't been teased a great deal. The
'irresponsibility' seems directly connected to my problems with dealing
with people.

Uh-oh.  I may be projecting some of my own antisocial-ness onto you.    Mine came from how I was raised, on top of being bullied.  I was encouraged in my reactions, even goaded, tbh.