Black or woman president?

[duncvis]

Thats actually bollocks. The electorate in the UK dont give much of a fuck about what faith their politicians are (as long as they dont make a big fuss about it). He was unsure if there was an archaic law still in force which would bar a Catholic from being PM, not whether he could get elected.

Thanks for correcting me on this. I was unsure on the level of anti-catholic feeling still remaining in British society.

no bother. there are a hell of a lot of catholics in the UK thanks in part to mass immigration from Ireland in the past as well as Poles, Italians, etc. The recent wave of Polish migrants has boosted the number of regular churchgoers in the Cathoilc church so there are more Catholic than Anglican bums on seats most sundays. the only places there's bad feeling are Ulster and parts of Scotland. More people are interested in Big Brother than any particular brand of faith. 

[The_P]

There was a lot of Cathloics in the UK after I've been through with them! Ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAAA!!!

 

[Soph]

A lot of my ancestors were catholic immigrants
Little Ireland i just down the road from my university

[Lemon Aguilera]

I don't get why anyone cares whether it's a woman or it's black

i don't really, i just want Dennis to win.

[Lemon Aguilera]

Looks like the woman made a comeback.

If she is elected, I hope that she can get the health care initiative to pass the House and Senate.  She wants everyone who sells health insurance to the Federal government to sell it to any American who wants to buy it for the same price they offer government employees, with the same lack of exclusion of pre-existing conditions.  Right now, employees of the Federal government can choose between maybe hundreds of different health insurance plans, so it would be nice for ordinary people to be able to buy health insurance if they need it.

The only reason we were able to buy health insurance after my husband lost his job was because we bought it under COBRA for the 18 months, then bought the conversion policy, which was crappy insurance and expensive, but at least we had health insurance.

Some plans allow participants and beneficiaries to convert group health coverage to an individual policy.  If this option is generally available from the plan, a qualified beneficiary who pays for COBRA coverage must be given the option of converting to an individual policy at the end of the COBRA continuation coverage period.  The option must be given to enroll in a conversion health plan within 180 days before COBRA coverage ends.  The premium for a conversion policy may be more expensive than the premium of a group plan, and the conversion policy may provide a lower level of coverage.  The conversion option, however, is not available if the beneficiary ends COBRA coverage before reaching the end of the maximum period of COBRA coverage.

is that related to the Cobra Event?

[Lemon Aguilera]

Nah. You're missing the point. Those of us
who believe that we don't should examine
more carefully, that's all.

I'm just sick of being told to examine more carefully, that's all. What the heck kind of proof does it take to actually get people to believe I'm not racist or sexist?

But, I'm not accusing YOU, or any other
single person (except for me). Still, I DO
suspect that there are a hell of a lot of
liberal minded folk, who end up making
judgments for suspicious feelings.

i'm way liberal but i see myself making judgements. that's because i'm hyperaware of myself. i analyze everything i do. it's a pain in the ass. anyway, i am really liberal and still catch myself sometimes thinking or reacting in ways that are not how i want to react... because of social conditioning or something. that's just how it goes. as long as i am aware of that and let it not affect how i treat people, that's most important. i can continue to work on them at my own pace.

[Calandale]

i'm way liberal but i see myself making judgements. that's because i'm hyperaware of myself. i analyze everything i do. it's a pain in the ass. anyway, i am really liberal and still catch myself sometimes thinking or reacting in ways that are not how i want to react... because of social conditioning or something. that's just how it goes. as long as i am aware of that and let it not affect how i treat people, that's most important. i can continue to work on them at my own pace.

Exactly. But, I guess I just presume
that everyone has biases. Can't imagine
them not, actually.

But, I have to trust Py, when she claims
not to. Even if all my evidence from others
points differently. I don't know her. Maybe
she's pure.

[Lemon Aguilera]

yes. never know.

[Pyraxis]

But, I have to trust Py, when she claims
not to. Even if all my evidence from others
points differently. I don't know her. Maybe
she's pure.

I'm not saying I don't have biases, I'm saying I don't have those particular biases. I don't care what gender you are. I don't care what color your skin is. Though I'm starting to see that in this society I ought to expect people with darker skin to have a chip on their shoulders about race.

A few of the things I am biased about:
- philosophy
- mental health (I don't like depressives)
- work (I look down on people who don't try to work or find work)
- risk tolerance (I really have a problem with people who try to enforce their safety standards on others)

[Calandale]

A few of the things I am biased about:
- philosophy
- mental health (I don't like depressives)
- work (I look down on people who don't try to work or find work)
- risk tolerance (I really have a problem with people who try to enforce their safety standards on others)

Hmm...given that you don't like my philosophy,
I'm seeing that every single one of those
strikes me. 

[Pyraxis]

  I know. I find those I hate fascinating. This is my way of questioning my biases.

[Calandale]

To know me is to love me though.

[Pyraxis]

Meaning I won't love you till I know you, or I won't know you till I love you?

[Calandale]

Take it in the biblical sense.

[Rabbit From Hell]

hIllary doesn't count as a woman.

oBama is just as bad as hIllary in terms of policy, it's just that he isn't one crazy assed fucked up bitch