Black or woman president?

[Peter]

I don't get why anyone cares whether it's a woman or it's black

The US is one of the most socially conservative western countries, so a female or black president would be a cultural landmark and of interest to the rest of the world due to the extent of US influence around the world.

The day the US elects a black lesbian atheist is the day I become interested in moving there.  Interestingly, an atheist candidate is at even more of a disadvantage than a homosexual one:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/02/black_president_more_likely_than_mormon_or_atheist_/

[Soph]

I read about the atheist thing
It's pretty fucked up

I can see what it's relevant, but I mean I can't see why it bothers people who are against it.

[Natalia Evans]

I wouldn't mind a black president or a woman but Hilary, I'm not sure about her yet. There is nothing in the constitution about what nationality you have to be or gender. You have to be at least 35 years of age, born in the United State and be a citizen more than 14 years I think. You have to meet all three to run. I'm pretty private about my politics so I don't say much about them and my opinions and beliefs.

[Calandale]

I don't get why anyone cares whether it's a woman or it's black

You know, most of those who do,
probably don't think that they do.
Built in stereotypes. Hillary (and
Nancy Pelosi too) gets called shrill.

Those who support, might call them feisty.
But, neither term is used for males. And, whatever
connotations go with such terms may just seem
WRONG, at the moment of voting. These things
are subtle.

Likewise, I'm sure, with blacks. Everyone has preconceptions,
and these get played upon, in judging the fitness. Sometimes,
this is good (like mine about bible thumpers  ), usually
though, they just serve as proxies for the person.

[Calandale]

I read about the atheist thing
It's pretty fucked up

I can see what it's relevant, but I mean I can't see why it bothers people who are against it.

There is a widespread (and understandable)
belief that atheists can have no morals. This
IS wrong, but it comes cleanly from the
kind of arguments that I make. I could make
a similar argument about Calvinists though. 

[Soph]

So basically your country is full of thick religious cunts?
I am intolerant too. I wouldn't vote for a religious nutcase if I had a gun to my head

[duncvis]

would you vote for an atheist nutcase? 

[odeon]

would you vote for an atheist nutcase? 

There's already a nutcase in the White House so that really isn't much of a stretch.

[Soph]

would you vote for an atheist nutcase? 

yes 

[Teejay]

I have no problem with this but what about the rest of the country. What are your opinions on the subject do you think they can be elected or is the US not ready yet.

Opinion polls show Americans only oppose the election of an Atheist president. Right now they are more accepting of voting a Black president than they were of a Catholic President in 1960.

[Parts]

I have no problem with this but what about the rest of the country. What are your opinions on the subject do you think they can be elected or is the US not ready yet.

Opinion polls show Americans only oppose the election of an Atheist president. Right now they are more accepting of voting a Black president than they were of a Catholic President in 1960.

Lot of people lie in these things as hiding racists views seems to be the American way

[Teejay]

Lot of people lie in these things as hiding racists views seems to be the American way

94% now accepting of a black president and 70% in 1960 of a Catholic one is quite a gap which cannot be easily explained away.

[Parts]

Lot of people lie in these things as hiding racists views seems to be the American way

94% now accepting of a black president and 70% in 1960 of a Catholic one is quite a gap which cannot be easily explained away.

Maybe they were thinking at least he's not a black Atheist 

[duncvis]

 :lol:

[odeon]

My guess is that he wouldn't tell, anyway.