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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #165 on: December 07, 2007, 08:38:55 PM »
On the other hand in difference to the U.S. almost none will go to prison for their crime here in Sweden, most people don't really even report the crime to the police. Sad, but true.


No one goes to jail for slander or libel, here
in the US, AFAIK.

They just sue eachother
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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #166 on: December 07, 2007, 09:06:02 PM »
But, it's NOT an easy case to prove.
First, it HAS to be personal, and directed.
It also has to cause some actual harm, be
false, and intentional. Pretty steep criteria.

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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #167 on: December 07, 2007, 09:12:18 PM »
But, it's NOT an easy case to prove.
First, it HAS to be personal, and directed.
It also has to cause some actual harm, be
false, and intentional. Pretty steep criteria.
Yeah it is thankfully.  But having to defend and get a lawyer is bad enough
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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #168 on: December 08, 2007, 04:04:06 AM »
what if it's true and causes harm? what if it's private information?
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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #169 on: December 08, 2007, 05:51:37 AM »
what if it's true and causes harm? what if it's private information?

Certain records, like medical records, might be confidential but if a news reporter somehow gains access to them without breaking the law then I think that they could be reported.


I think that in the US, proving the truth of a statement is an absolute defense to a slander or libel lawsuit.

Let's say for example, that I said in public that my daughter's special education teacher put soap in my daughter's mouth and choked her and I named the teacher.

The teacher could sue me for slander, and then there would be a trial.

If I proved that she did those things to my daughter then I would be completely off the hook, however if I could not prove the truth of my statement and if she proved that her career was damaged by my saying that she did those things, then I would have to pay her a judgement.

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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #170 on: December 08, 2007, 10:26:38 AM »
i don't think publishing someone's medical records should ever be allowed.
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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #171 on: December 08, 2007, 11:11:53 AM »
With the all seeing computer Gods of today it's hard to keep things secret :police: :grrr:
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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #172 on: December 08, 2007, 12:54:17 PM »


If I proved that she did those things to my daughter then I would be completely off the hook, however if I could not prove the truth of my statement and if she proved that her career was damaged by my saying that she did those things, then I would have to pay her a judgement.

Yeah, because she's a private person.
Public figures, I believe, have the burden
of proof on themselves. Thus, they have
a hell of a time proving slander.

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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #173 on: December 08, 2007, 03:06:18 PM »
Fuck no, generally speaking.
Generally speaking, yes. With you, no.
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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #174 on: February 26, 2008, 05:59:08 AM »
I get the impression that the liberals on this board who ostensibly defend Muslims actually will only praise them in inverse proportion to how Muslim they actually are.  A conservative, dedicatedc Muslim who wears a dress, has a beard and and hat, and dissaproves of gays, hates non Muslims and doesn't belive women should be allowed to drvie or walk the streets alone, that is a bad Muslim.   A westernised, nominal Muslim who is part of the culture but doesn't really have a strong faith and has liberal views, respecting woman and gays and ignoring parts of the Koran unaccpetable to UK culture, is a good Muslim.  I just hope it is true what they tell us that the latter outweighs the former.

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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #175 on: February 26, 2008, 06:08:19 AM »
Should I just laugh at your expense, or do you want to back some of your statements up?
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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #176 on: February 26, 2008, 06:27:45 AM »
What statements?  I'm just talking about the impression I get about other's beliefs from hearing their views.  It's my personal  (and incomplete) experience, not informed facts or "statements".
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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #177 on: February 26, 2008, 06:35:36 AM »
OK.

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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #178 on: February 26, 2008, 06:42:00 AM »
Forgetting the people of this board, let me talk about my local press.  I live in a big UK city with a large Muslim population.  There are often stories in the local press about an Islamic bookshop being searched by police or a violence-supporting cleric being forced to stop preaching.  Whenever this happens the papers are like " Well don't judge all Muslims by these, because some of them don't follow the Koran to the letter, they have very liberal interpretaions and ignore the bad bits".  This is paraphrasing, but it is the impression I get.

I am also wondering if the UK Hindus and Sikhs who resent Muslims would be considered racist, as their skin is brown, and many UK Muslims are white converts.

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Re: Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again
« Reply #179 on: February 26, 2008, 06:55:30 AM »
Interesting video.  Make of it what you will.

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At the end of the day, innocent people, when we say innocent people, we mean muslims.  As far as non-muslims are concerned, they have not accepted Islam, and as far as we're concerned, that is a crime against God.

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14:10 - Moarskrillex42: She said something about knowing why I wanted to move to Glasgow when she came in. She plopped down on my bed and told me to go ahead and open it for her.

14:11 - Peter5930: So, she thought I was your lover and that I was sending you a box full of sex toys, and that you wanted to move to Glasgow to be with me?