Muslims get their frilly panties in a twist once again

[Calandale]

If they were smart, they'd start worshiping the damned teddy bear. Teddy bears don't incite people to perform executions based on the name someone gives a teddy bear. Teddy bears just sit and be cute.

i've worshipped teddies since i was a kid. i had a ton of teddies and plushies and couldn't even breathe through my nose. i still have the elite group with me that i carry around. when i packed to move to Ireland i tossed my teddies in the suitcase and my computer. lol that's like my most important posessions.

teddies are always nice and never judge.

I used to have a ton of stuffed animals
(that's what we called them, in my day).
Kind of gave them up, when I went to
live in the dorms  . Then again,
I was mainly just using them sexually, for
the last few years that I had them.

[Calandale]

Like I said before in the extreme all religions tend to get wacky I have met both in Muslims they are people too and run the full spectrum of some real nut jobs who I am sure are on the terrorist watch lists to just the regular guy who you would not mind as a neighbor.  The problem in many of the Muslim countries  is they have no exposer to anything but the hard liners who like their positions of power and do almost anything to keep them

Terrorists ain't muslims, what they are doing is violating the Qu'ran (even though they usually claim it's their Jihad, but the big Jihad is the fight within yourself). Problem is that most people don't see that.

This is like saying that southern baptists aren't really
christians, if they hate. Let people call themselves what
they will. If those with more sensibilities can't handle the
company, let them rename what they are. The terrorist
side of Islam is a PART of the religion. It can't be changed
by denial, any more than the inquisition can be denied by
christians. THIS is what faith, and knowing that you are
right does.

[Calandale]

christians usually get it wrong too. bible itself was altered by people and misinterpreted.

It was WRITTEN by people. Why shouldn't they alter it?
If God's will somehow made the original correct, why shouldn't
any changes be so too?

[Calandale]

And him being a militaristic leader; many men (and women!) in history has been brilliant strategists and such, but they all fight for something they believe in and think is right. Like Boudiccas fight for freedom but she isn't less of a person for killing people.

Aye. Like Hitler. This is exactly what is wrong with
strong faith. Religious or otherwise.

[Calandale]

I have a reasoned argument against the majority of Muslims. You refuse to accept it because you're afraid of Muslims. You saw what they did to a Danish newspaper that expressed its freedom of speech, and you'd rather cower in a corner than confront a bully, much as you did with the stormfront issue.

I don't see the two as parallel. In the latter, the choice was
made to indeed cower. Here, a discussion IS allowed.

Religious dogma poisons everything it touches. This is especially true of the majority of muslims who live under some form or another of theocracy where they are brainwashed 5 times a day into worshiping one of the most vile characters in fiction.

But SO does any other dogma. Don't just blame
religion. Political beliefs can be every bit as damaging.
Look at the clash between communism and capitalism.

Read the Quran, it is one of the most hate filled books ever writen...only Mein Kampf comes close.

Not to mention the old testament.

[Calandale]

I'm still waiting for an actual argument instead of the hyperbole. Not a problem as such; I wasn't expecting one from you.

As for the Qur'an, I've read it. Have you?

Bigot.

What happened in Denmark isn't called freedom of speech but agitation against an ethnic group. Or that's atleast what it's called in Sweden.

Oh come on, they were bloody cartoons.

[Calandale]

Don't worry about Scrap, Joe Hill. He's our resident bigot. Harmless, mostly, but annoying at times.

I'm quite glad to see him back, TBH.

[Calandale]

The Bible is no walk in the park either

Very true!!! The only reason christians aren't as bigoted as the muslims, is that they ignore most of what the bible says.

Time. Give Islam another 500 years.
We've had that much of a head start.
Islam is at the point that Christianity was,
in the 1500's. They haven't even really
had their equivalent of the 30 years war yet.

Once they ruin their economies fully, in this
type of hate war, they will mellow a bit.

[Parts]

The Bible is no walk in the park either

Very true!!! The only reason christians aren't as bigoted as the muslims, is that they ignore most of what the bible says.

Time. Give Islam another 500 years.
We've had that much of a head start.
Islam is at the point that Christianity was,
in the 1500's. They haven't even really
had their equivalent of the 30 years war yet.

Once they ruin their economies fully, in this
type of hate war, they will mellow a bit.

Wait till they run out of oil and nobody pays attention to them anymore that will send them for a loop well at least in the Middle East

[Calandale]

They were poor, and without important resources,
back at the turn of the last century. Still a pretty
violent bunch.

[Parts]

They won't have the world by the balls like now.  We were a pretty violent bunch then and now.  I think they will miss the attention

[Fritz the Cat]

Like I said before in the extreme all religions tend to get wacky I have met both in Muslims they are people too and run the full spectrum of some real nut jobs who I am sure are on the terrorist watch lists to just the regular guy who you would not mind as a neighbor.  The problem in many of the Muslim countries  is they have no exposer to anything but the hard liners who like their positions of power and do almost anything to keep them

Terrorists ain't muslims, what they are doing is violating the Qu'ran (even though they usually claim it's their Jihad, but the big Jihad is the fight within yourself). Problem is that most people don't see that.

This is like saying that southern baptists aren't really
christians, if they hate. Let people call themselves what
they will. If those with more sensibilities can't handle the
company, let them rename what they are. The terrorist
side of Islam is a PART of the religion. It can't be changed
by denial, any more than the inquisition can be denied by
christians. THIS is what faith, and knowing that you are
right does.

Well, they will go to hell anyway.

[odeon]

I'm still waiting for an actual argument instead of the hyperbole. Not a problem as such; I wasn't expecting one from you.

As it applies to Islam and the quran, I'm not sure that hyperbole is possible, given the black and white dogma it preaches. Islam itself deals in superlatives. Therefore, it's not hyperbole to compare it to something equally bigoted and full of hate.

More hyperbole. Don't you ever get tired of yourself?

As for the Qur'an, I've read it. Have you?

I've read as much as I can stomach.... a moral person gets sick after only a few chapters.

More hyperbole. If you want to discuss the Qur'an, have the courtesy of reading it first. Be sure to get a decent translation, though--allow me to recommend this one.

Bigot.

How Orwellian of you.... the defender of bigotry calling those who denounce bigotry, a bigot...... That's rich!!!

bigot
     n : a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions
         differing from his own

Give the hyperbole a rest and re-examine what I and others have been saying about Islam. Until then...

Bigot.

[Calandale]

Like I said before in the extreme all religions tend to get wacky I have met both in Muslims they are people too and run the full spectrum of some real nut jobs who I am sure are on the terrorist watch lists to just the regular guy who you would not mind as a neighbor.  The problem in many of the Muslim countries  is they have no exposer to anything but the hard liners who like their positions of power and do almost anything to keep them

Terrorists ain't muslims, what they are doing is violating the Qu'ran (even though they usually claim it's their Jihad, but the big Jihad is the fight within yourself). Problem is that most people don't see that.

This is like saying that southern baptists aren't really
christians, if they hate. Let people call themselves what
they will. If those with more sensibilities can't handle the
company, let them rename what they are. The terrorist
side of Islam is a PART of the religion. It can't be changed
by denial, any more than the inquisition can be denied by
christians. THIS is what faith, and knowing that you are
right does.

Well, they will go to hell anyway.

Only the really cool get into hell.

[SovaNu]

I used to have a ton of stuffed animals
(that's what we called them, in my day).
Kind of gave them up, when I went to
live in the dorms  . Then again,
I was mainly just using them sexually, for
the last few years that I had them.

 

well weren't they lucky?

It was WRITTEN by people. Why shouldn't they alter it?
If God's will somehow made the original correct, why shouldn't
any changes be so too?

interesting question. well, if god said to whoever wrote the bible, "write as i dictate, as typewriters haven't been invented yet" and then proceeded to spill his guts, and then there was the bible, and then these other guys come along and they're all like "well our lord satan told us to go fuck with the book god's brownnosers just made, haha" and then they go and screw it all up and start cults that twist the word of god and pretend to be all holy.