How to Opt Into Pranks--The Please Prank Me List

[Callaway]

............... I'm talking about writing off people's arguments completely because of who they are, I'm talking about those of you that decide they're going to smite someone they disagree with every hour on the hour just to show just how much people dislike their point of view,etc).  Silencing the dissenting voice was something you said you considered bullying in your previous post,

QFT 

odeon is a fucking hypocritical ass in this regard

I think that you actually did this to a much greater extent than anyone else, Scrapheap.

I noticed several people's karmas going down a lot while you were online and I know that it wasn't me smiting them.

[Scrapheap]

............... I'm talking about writing off people's arguments completely because of who they are, I'm talking about those of you that decide they're going to smite someone they disagree with every hour on the hour just to show just how much people dislike their point of view,etc).  Silencing the dissenting voice was something you said you considered bullying in your previous post,

QFT 

odeon is a fucking hypocritical ass in this regard

I think that you actually did this to a much greater extent than anyone else, Scrapheap.

I noticed several people's karmas going down a lot while you were online and I know that it wasn't me smiting them.

This wasn't in reference to karma smiting (something I didn't start and wasn't the only one engaged in)

It was about how odeon and Lucifer ganged up on anyone the decided they didn't like and instead of trying to engage them in debate, simply took cheap shots at them, condescended, belittled them and smote their karma while plussing eachother.

It was clear bullying behavior and even McJ was getting sick of their shit. (he pm'ed me about it) 

If you want to accuse people of driving members out of here, why don't you accuse odeon and Lucifer of this??

[Calandale]

Was the GOOD point of Hadron as an admin.
Kept that crap from happening.

[Christopher McCandless]

Was the GOOD point of Hadron as an admin.
Kept that crap from happening.

Well if they admined you in my place, then my legacy would be continued.

[Calandale]

Was the GOOD point of Hadron as an admin.
Kept that crap from happening.

Well if they admined you in my place, then my legacy would be continued.

I don't know. I'm not sure that I would have been as scary.

[Christopher McCandless]

Was the GOOD point of Hadron as an admin.
Kept that crap from happening.

Well if they admined you in my place, then my legacy would be continued.

I don't know. I'm not sure that I would have been as scary.

I can suggest a load of pranks, i missed Lucifer off my list. Pity.

[The_P]

To paraphrase Dr Gregory House: "Everybody Pranks."

What the fuck is this House, anyhow? Is it number 7 to the horror movie series or summat?

House 7, you better watch out.

[odeon]

I'm not saying that you're in some clique (although I find it interesting that you would ask me that since you were also using the 'groups' argument), what I am saying is that you are usually in the group that shouts the loudest when it comes to WC discussions and that uses practically every tactic to show just how much you dislike the opinions of those who disagree (and by this I'm not just talking about arguing your own point of view- I'm talking about writing off people's arguments completely because of who they are, I'm talking about those of you that decide they're going to smite someone they disagree with every hour on the hour just to show just how much people dislike their point of view,etc).

i'm usually too lazy to engage in anything like this. i've done it with scrap when he had already started doing the same to me.

I'd count emoticon yawns, and complaints of shit stirring,
without any explanation within this.

i think i did explain about the shit-stirring, though, didn't i? for your benefit, i'll do it again: i think you're guilty of arguing on and on about a subject (the fiat ruling is an example), for no other purpose than provocation, in other words, shit-stirring. if me holding that opinion makes me into a bully, all of a sudden, then so be it.

but why would you count the yawns? they are a short form of "this bores me" and serve a purpose, imo, just as the laugh emoticons, the LMAOs, boobs, pirates, and so on.

[Calandale]

I promised not to prank - with the possible exception of
the werd confusulator. For that, I'd have asked specific
permission from the members. I wanted to test how one
thing worked on SMF.

[odeon]

Perhaps. But there are many ways of bullying.
Some could easily argue that a person in a position
of authority, making some statements that Odeon
makes, is a form of bullying - which is why I make sure
to pin him down that 'tis only his opinion. Some could
say that someone in such a position, making an anti-prank
list, is doing just that - again, why we hammer out that it
actually has no authority; if I had posted such a list, no one
would have worried at all.

i state my opinions, just as you state yours, just as everyone else state theirs. why is it so hard to ignore the webmaster title in discussions? or is it just a convenient excuse when the arguments themselves fail?

[Calandale]

i think i did explain about the shit-stirring, though, didn't i? for your benefit, i'll do it again: i think you're guilty of arguing on and on about a subject (the fiat ruling is an example), for no other purpose than provocation, in other words, shit-stirring. if me holding that opinion makes me into a bully, all of a sudden, then so be it.

Oh, I know what you MEAN by it. I don't see that it's the case.
There's always a reason underlying my point of view.

but why would you count the yawns? they are a short form of "this bores me" and serve a purpose, imo, just as the laugh emoticons, the LMAOs, boobs, pirates, and so on.

the short form is no better than the longer.
If that's all that you have to add, why bother?
It's merely saying that this whole discussion is
simply not worth your time. Bullying? not really.
But it does show a fundamental disregard for the
effort that the poster put into expressing what
they see as important. And, when it comes to
matters of site, seems wholly inappropriate. Hell,
I don't put yawns in the midst of all the random
sex talk, which is boring to me.

[odeon]

You have prohibited their rights to voice their opinions by repeatedly pranking people who have asked you to stop, Peaguy.

I don't see why they can't say things.

i've had members tell me this also. theory of mind really is a bitch.

[Calandale]

i state my opinions, just as you state yours, just as everyone else state theirs. why is it so hard to ignore the webmaster title in discussions? or is it just a convenient excuse when the arguments themselves fail?

I think Callaway came up with a fair way to
handle this - if something IS effected by
that position, it be very clearly noted as
such.

[odeon]

I do agree that when an admin makes some kind of blunt statement that could be interpreted as some kind of declaration or carries out an action, such as the posting of 'improved' polls it does seem to be official in some way (even though the staff member in question didn't mean it that way). I think the solution may be that such things are clearly labeled as 'unofficial' just so that people can distinguish between actions carried out as an ordinary member and the more official actions/statements a staff member sometimes has to make.

i think this is an excellent suggestion.

[odeon]

........ free speech isn't--or shouldn't be, at least--about bullying or about some group mentality where it's ok to tell the dissenting voice to grow some skin, stop being such a grumpy old man, or whatever, because you belong to a group that's loud enough.

I'd listen to your own advice on this one.

i'm trying to do just that.