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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #225 on: August 21, 2018, 08:02:35 PM »
 :facepalm2:  That goes without saying, which is why he didn't say it.   ::)

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #226 on: August 22, 2018, 12:40:21 AM »
That makes no sense. He was creating an ordered list - chose one thing we can't live without,
but ignored higher priorities?

No. He didn't say it because it doesn't sound anywhere near as interesting to state that free
speech is the fourth most important thing. What's known as a deliberate lie to strengthen
a point. Of course, he was probably also lying about shelter coming next too, but what do you
expect from people who have strong beliefs? They are bound to inflate them for their own purposes.

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #227 on: September 07, 2018, 05:24:19 PM »
Well Trump doesn't just want to limit free speech. He wants to ban it:

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President Trump has long derided the mainstream media as the “enemy of the people” and lashed out at NFL players for kneeling during the national anthem. On Tuesday, he took his attacks on free speech one step further, suggesting in an interview with a conservative news site that the act of protesting should be illegal.

Trump made the remarks in an Oval Office interview with the Daily Caller hours after his Supreme Court nominee, Brett M. Kavanaugh, was greeted by protests on the first day of his confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill.

“I don’t know why they don’t take care of a situation like that,” Trump said. “I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-suggests-protesting-should-be-illegal/2018/09/04/11cfd9be-b0a0-11e8-aed9-001309990777_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bd00ff28a234
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #228 on: November 09, 2018, 01:37:34 PM »
You're all nutters and goodnight.

Free speech, innit.  ;-)

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #229 on: November 09, 2018, 01:59:58 PM »
Air and water are more precious than food.
Minutes without air, days without water, weeks without food and years and years and fucking years without a good song, then we learn to sing.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #230 on: November 09, 2018, 02:22:24 PM »
Well Trump doesn't just want to limit free speech. He wants to ban it:

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President Trump has long derided the mainstream media as the “enemy of the people” and lashed out at NFL players for kneeling during the national anthem. On Tuesday, he took his attacks on free speech one step further, suggesting in an interview with a conservative news site that the act of protesting should be illegal.

Trump made the remarks in an Oval Office interview with the Daily Caller hours after his Supreme Court nominee, Brett M. Kavanaugh, was greeted by protests on the first day of his confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill.

“I don’t know why they don’t take care of a situation like that,” Trump said. “I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-suggests-protesting-should-be-illegal/2018/09/04/11cfd9be-b0a0-11e8-aed9-001309990777_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bd00ff28a234
Check all that, chum.
All taken out of context.
Protesting the outcome of a free election or protesting an appointment by the executive within his or her purview, verified by the Senate, just seems whiney. If you do not like the results of a vote, go back to work and find the votes to set things  "a'right"  as we southerners sometimes say and use the ways of law.
Mobbing those who have been elected just makes more votes for the side you are protesting.

He was also talking about those protests that became mobs and broke into businesses, flipped cars at random and generally committed serious crimes in the name of peace.
The right to peaceably assemble is predicated upon a "peaceful" assembly.

Scream all you want, wave any sign you want, yell and cuss all you want, say anything you want, but spitting at a police officer is an assault. DO not do that unless you want your peaceable assemble to be further assessed as not so peaceful.

Some of these violent protests SHOULD be shut down by local police. Once the line is crossed into criminal behavior, then the rights to peaceably assemble and protest are forfeit.

Kind of defines what banning these things is about.

If you only read WP, then you are not in the know.


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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #231 on: November 09, 2018, 08:42:18 PM »
probably missed a bath or two

If fixing this were a criteria for posting on the internet, it would be a desolate wasteland.  :LOL:
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #232 on: November 13, 2018, 09:44:09 AM »
probably missed a bath or two

If fixing this were a criteria for posting on the internet, it would be a desolate wasteland.  :LOL:

Yeah, I knew some would get it.

My crimes are not the first instances of those crimes.
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