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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21045 on: September 30, 2009, 12:20:42 PM »
Why is it that, in this day and age, with information readily available with the push of a button, there are so many Muslims and Christians in this world?

Because religious beliefs are just that, beliefs? They don't appeal to the rational mind. That's my guess.

And now that I think of it, that is most likely the answer to my question as well. Racism is not about thinking rationally, it's about fear of the unknown and the different.
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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21046 on: September 30, 2009, 12:32:29 PM »
I think most religions are disgusting, and I'm no coward. I say that openly.
Most muslims (at least most muslims I know of) are of pakistani/bangladeshi origin here. The ones I've met were born in England though. Either way, I don't care if they're white, asian, purple or stripey. Race means absolutely nothing to me (my own, and other people's)

But see, the thing is, religions were invented by people. So why not just hate people that do stupid shit like trying to control other people and blame it on their religion. I've met religious people who were quite nice people, and I've met religious people who were complete arses. I've even met atheists that were morons.

What this means is, it doesn't matter where you are from. where you were born or what you believe in, a percentage of those people are going to be nice and another percentage are going to be fuckheads.

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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21047 on: September 30, 2009, 12:33:13 PM »
IMO us in the West are being manipulated by our so-called leaders and the media into hating Muslims, just as they are being manipulated by their so-called leaders and media into hating us. The sensible ones realize that stereotypes do not equal entire cultures, and evaluate people (as Korzybski suggested) as individuals-as-a-whole rather than as part of a group. Ergo, you don't say semantic nonsense like "All Jews/Muslims/Xtians" are, you evaluate them on a case-by-case basis: Muslim1, Muslim2, etc.
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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21048 on: September 30, 2009, 12:35:13 PM »
I think most religions are disgusting, and I'm no coward. I say that openly.
Most muslims (at least most muslims I know of) are of pakistani/bangladeshi origin here. The ones I've met were born in England though. Either way, I don't care if they're white, asian, purple or stripey. Race means absolutely nothing to me (my own, and other people's)

But see, the thing is, religions were invented by people. So why not just hate people that do stupid shit like trying to control other people and blame it on their religion. I've met religious people who were quite nice people, and I've met religious people who were complete arses. I've even met atheists that were morons.

What this means is, it doesn't matter where you are from. where you were born or what you believe in, a percentage of those people are going to be nice and another percentage are going to be fuckheads.

Obviously where you were born doesn't make any difference. But what you believe says something about who you are, not what you are. So it's hardly the same as race.

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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21049 on: September 30, 2009, 12:35:40 PM »
IMO us in the West are being manipulated by our so-called leaders and the media into hating Muslims, just as they are being manipulated by their so-called leaders and media into hating us. The sensible ones realize that stereotypes do not equal entire cultures, and evaluate people (as Korzybski suggested) as individuals-as-a-whole rather than as part of a group. Ergo, you don't say semantic nonsense like "All Jews/Muslims/Xtians" are, you evaluate them on a case-by-case basis: Muslim1, Muslim2, etc.

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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21050 on: September 30, 2009, 12:47:17 PM »
I think most religions are disgusting, and I'm no coward. I say that openly.
Most muslims (at least most muslims I know of) are of pakistani/bangladeshi origin here. The ones I've met were born in England though. Either way, I don't care if they're white, asian, purple or stripey. Race means absolutely nothing to me (my own, and other people's)

But see, the thing is, religions were invented by people. So why not just hate people that do stupid shit like trying to control other people and blame it on their religion. I've met religious people who were quite nice people, and I've met religious people who were complete arses. I've even met atheists that were morons.

What this means is, it doesn't matter where you are from. where you were born or what you believe in, a percentage of those people are going to be nice and another percentage are going to be fuckheads.

Obviously where you were born doesn't make any difference. But what you believe says something about who you are, not what you are. So it's hardly the same as race.

Fine, most religious people this us atheists believe in nothing and have no morals etc. Do you find that to be true?

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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21051 on: September 30, 2009, 05:17:29 PM »
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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21052 on: September 30, 2009, 10:04:51 PM »
I think most religions are disgusting, and I'm no coward. I say that openly.
Most muslims (at least most muslims I know of) are of pakistani/bangladeshi origin here. The ones I've met were born in England though. Either way, I don't care if they're white, asian, purple or stripey. Race means absolutely nothing to me (my own, and other people's)

But see, the thing is, religions were invented by people. So why not just hate people that do stupid shit like trying to control other people and blame it on their religion. I've met religious people who were quite nice people, and I've met religious people who were complete arses. I've even met atheists that were morons.

What this means is, it doesn't matter where you are from. where you were born or what you believe in, a percentage of those people are going to be nice and another percentage are going to be fuckheads.

Obviously where you were born doesn't make any difference. But what you believe says something about who you are, not what you are. So it's hardly the same as race.

Fine, most religious people this us atheists believe in nothing and have no morals etc. Do you find that to be true?

I think that it depends on the specific person who is atheist, just like it depends on the specific person who is Christian or Muslim or Jewish or whatever.

Different people think and believe different things and have their own moral codes that are somewhat independent of their labels.

I say somewhat because I think almost all atheists believe there is no God, but some atheists have a very strong moral code that influences nearly everything they do while others do not. 

I think it is the same way with Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc.

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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21053 on: October 01, 2009, 12:34:44 AM »
if you're a christian/muslim/jew though, shouldn't you be following the moral code you're indoctrinated with?
atheists don't have that

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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21054 on: October 01, 2009, 09:24:10 AM »
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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21055 on: October 01, 2009, 10:02:28 AM »
if you're a christian/muslim/jew though, shouldn't you be following the moral code you're indoctrinated with?
atheists don't have that
Look up Locke's natural laws.

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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21056 on: October 01, 2009, 11:31:50 AM »
Where is my last.fm sig? ???
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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21057 on: October 01, 2009, 01:03:11 PM »
if you're a christian/muslim/jew though, shouldn't you be following the moral code you're indoctrinated with?
atheists don't have that
Look up Locke's natural laws.
are you stupid?

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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21058 on: October 01, 2009, 01:54:38 PM »
Found my last.fm sig. ;D
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Re: Post what you're thinking right now.
« Reply #21059 on: October 01, 2009, 05:36:30 PM »
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