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Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« on: September 03, 2007, 10:12:53 PM »
 Small groups of humans are almost always governed by the rule of personality. The strongest dominate and a pecking order forms. The main problem with this is it is always limited in group size. This system never works in groups of people over 150. That's a magic number in sociology. It's the number of people in most tribal cultures. It the number of people most NT's have in thier phone book, It's the number of people most NT's asociate with. It's also the number of people in an Infantry Company or Aircraft Squadron.

 Intensity is slowly approaching that number. Will we ever excede it?? What do we do when we excede it??

Some sort of structure is neccesary if I² is to ever get bigger than a human tribe.

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2007, 10:52:45 PM »
If what we're doing doesn't work,
we can always fall back on the autocracy
which clearly does. At least it's more
honest.

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 12:08:43 AM »
 ::)

take it to the streets.  shout it from the rooftops.
is it broken, yet?
Misunderstood.

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 12:09:50 AM »
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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2007, 12:58:51 AM »
::)

take it to the streets.  shout it from the rooftops.
is it broken, yet?

It's an issue that can't be avoided. Either it will ultimately limit I² from evolving into something more, or a rule system will HAVE to be implemented.

Procrastinate all you want. you can't ignore the issue forever.

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2007, 01:09:33 AM »
oh, ffs!  ::)

this is so fucking tedious.  tell you what, why don't we just stick the whole shebang out on the board and let everyone say what they want?  of course, that means that you, cal and hardon will actually have to come up with a set of clear, specific and workable suggestions.  and i'm serious - reading all this waffle is such a waste of energy.

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2007, 02:12:09 AM »
oh, ANOTHER thread on this?

IT'S A FUCKING INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD!!!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

- Albert Einstein

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2007, 02:18:27 AM »
sorry?  didn't quite catch that, dear heart.

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2007, 02:31:54 AM »
sorry?  didn't quite catch that, dear heart.

IT'S A FUCKING INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD!!!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 02:33:01 AM »
oh, right.  thank you.   :-*

but do you reckon the hard of thinking will get it?

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2007, 02:34:22 AM »
oh, right.  thank you.   :-*

but do you reckon the hard of thinking will get it?

no.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2007, 04:20:06 AM »
I accidentally clicked on this without realising it was site politics. I want the last two minutes of my life back. kthxbai

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2007, 06:35:36 AM »
oh, ffs!  ::)

this is so fucking tedious.  tell you what, why don't we just stick the whole shebang out on the board and let everyone say what they want?  of course, that means that you, cal and hardon will actually have to come up with a set of clear, specific and workable suggestions.  and i'm serious - reading all this waffle is such a waste of energy.
Yay. Much better than just yawning. No objecting to making it open.
I came up with multiple suggestions. The first was, don't change the
rules without a vote. i.e. we let people in, like any other issue. Somehow,
the vote got accelerated. What defense is there? I don't know. My HOPE
was that those involved would see the wrong in their actions, and admit it,
thus reducing the likelyhood that this is all a precedent. Because without a
written constitution, precedent is ALL that we have. And this one is patterned
on the worst kind of oligarchies.


After McJ's interpretation, assuming that it stands, ALL decisions are no
longer made on the so called simple (yet undefined) vote, but just on
the rule that if three people support it, it passes.

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2007, 06:36:24 AM »
I accidentally clicked on this without realising it was site politics. I want the last two minutes of my life back. kthxbai

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Re: Rule of Personality vs Rule of Law
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2007, 06:39:38 AM »
::)

take it to the streets.  shout it from the rooftops.
is it broken, yet?

It's an issue that can't be avoided. Either it will ultimately limit I² from evolving into something more, or a rule system will HAVE to be implemented.

Procrastinate all you want. you can't ignore the issue forever.
i have no problem addressing issues as they arise.  why don't we just let the current system play out (since it works) and adapt as changes dictate.
might be a good lesson in group politics for the aspie inclined.
Misunderstood.