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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #240 on: September 04, 2007, 07:55:43 AM »
losts of any people are bigoted. what's your fucking point, little boy?
My point is that Lucifer is a hypocrite. She has attacked bigotry and then goes on to defend a group that is probably equally as bigoted as the BNP, if not more so. And what scraps just said.

you attack a whole religion but think others are bigoted?
I am not the one who is defending and attacking bigotory at the same time. Asides a religion is a set of views that people choose to follow, and they can take responsiblity for assigning themselves to that group, equally as much as if someone joins the BNP they can be labelled. Exactly the same thing, except one just happens to be called a religion and apparently makes it ok.
I said lots of muslims are bigoted, not Islam itself (though there is probably plenty of proof in there). The teachings of the religious leaders are equally as important as the actual religious books. The stoning to death of women is in the application of Sharia law. And no I havent got tradition mixed up with religion, although there are plenty of court cases made by muslims who want to wear their wonderful full veils and the like, unfortuantly human rights prevent us to shipping them off to a country more suited to their ideas and bullshit.

this is what you actually said:

even if it is one of the most bigoted religions in the planet

seems clear to me you meant the *religion*. now, let's hear you blame someone or something. bigot.
Attacking a religion doesnt make someone a bigot, see above.

so you DID attack the religion, not just some Muslims? and no, that single statement in itself does not make you a bigot. however, combined with your other posts on the subject, you clearly are one.

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Muslims in the UK have made themselves scapegoats through their own actions over the last 5-6 years.

that's what they said about the Jews in Germany before WW2. your hitler avatar is well chosen.

bigot.
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #241 on: September 04, 2007, 08:22:25 AM »
losts of any people are bigoted. what's your fucking point, little boy?
My point is that Lucifer is a hypocrite. She has attacked bigotry and then goes on to defend a group that is probably equally as bigoted as the BNP, if not more so. And what scraps just said.

you attack a whole religion but think others are bigoted?
I am not the one who is defending and attacking bigotory at the same time. Asides a religion is a set of views that people choose to follow, and they can take responsiblity for assigning themselves to that group, equally as much as if someone joins the BNP they can be labelled. Exactly the same thing, except one just happens to be called a religion and apparently makes it ok.
I said lots of muslims are bigoted, not Islam itself (though there is probably plenty of proof in there). The teachings of the religious leaders are equally as important as the actual religious books. The stoning to death of women is in the application of Sharia law. And no I havent got tradition mixed up with religion, although there are plenty of court cases made by muslims who want to wear their wonderful full veils and the like, unfortuantly human rights prevent us to shipping them off to a country more suited to their ideas and bullshit.

this is what you actually said:

even if it is one of the most bigoted religions in the planet

seems clear to me you meant the *religion*. now, let's hear you blame someone or something. bigot.
Attacking a religion doesnt make someone a bigot, see above.

so you DID attack the religion, not just some Muslims? and no, that single statement in itself does not make you a bigot. however, combined with your other posts on the subject, you clearly are one.

Quote from: Hadron
Muslims in the UK have made themselves scapegoats through their own actions over the last 5-6 years.

that's what they said about the Jews in Germany before WW2. your hitler avatar is well chosen.

bigot.
I am just stating the facts. Thanks for the history lesson, but 40% of Jews were not trying to turn Germany into a Jewish state were they. Nor were they frequently making speechs complaining about how shit Germany is.
And you are just using the word "bigot" because you have lost the arguement. Now go and run away....

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #242 on: September 04, 2007, 01:17:46 PM »
so you DID attack the religion, not just some Muslims? and no, that single statement in itself does not make you a bigot. however, combined with your other posts on the subject, you clearly are one.

Quote from: Hadron
Muslims in the UK have made themselves scapegoats through their own actions over the last 5-6 years.

that's what they said about the Jews in Germany before WW2. your hitler avatar is well chosen.

bigot.
I am just stating the facts. Thanks for the history lesson, but 40% of Jews were not trying to turn Germany into a Jewish state were they. Nor were they frequently making speechs complaining about how shit Germany is.
And you are just using the word "bigot" because you have lost the arguement. Now go and run away....

don't you think that before you claim victory, you should at least present some kind of argument supporting your cause, other than the standard racist bullshit on white supremacy pages?

as i said, the hitler avatar is dead on for you.
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #243 on: September 04, 2007, 01:28:33 PM »
yada, yada, yada.  we all know there's shitloads wrong with organised religions, especially when the fundies get going.  my point about defending various groups is that lumping "all muslims", "all christians", "all men", "all black people", etc., etc, together is not only bigoted, as one then makes sweeping generalisations about what are, practically by default, extremely heterogenous groups, which i would call bigotry.

yes, people do hideous things in the name of islam, as they do in the name of christianity, hinduism, communism, fascism, new labour, so-called contemporary R&B, and about a squizillion more.  i don't defend any of that, but i do defend a disparate group of people from attacks by those who don't actually know what they're talking about, have no real experience of the bigger picture, and are closed-minded about the whole thing (i.e. bigots).

as far as islam is concerned, muslims just happen to be the latest in a long line of scapegoats, and the danger with scapegoating is, obviously, that those doing the scapegoating don't bother to look at themselves to see where their own responsibilities lie, for whatever wrongs they're blaming the others for.  of course islamic terrorists are a bunch of dangerous, fanatical wankers.  but it's lazy and irresponsible to blame them for everything wrong with the world today.

might help if you'd actually read some of my other posts on the subject properly, hadron, as i'm sure i've said this several times before.  ::)
I am making judgements on a collective choice that people have made, and I am sure you would agree with me in saying that people should be held in account for their actions. Just as you are sweepingly attacking people for being a member of the BNP.

As for my research, I have more than done it. Yes there are some muslims who have opened their eyes and modernised, but they are few and far between, the ones who have realised half the religion is not acceptatable in the modern era. Its the ones who follow the mainstream ideas are the problem, given what is said in the Koran. If you take the terrorists aside, there is still a big big problem. Muslims in the UK have made themselves scapegoats through their own actions over the last 5-6 years.

Ditto.

could you possibly make your response pertinent to the quotation.  sidestepping and rambling off on another tangent makes you look dozy.

in particular, the bit i've highlighted is completely "wtf?"  it's not even relevant to the rest of your witterings.

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #244 on: September 04, 2007, 01:31:53 PM »
could you possibly make your response pertinent to the quotation.  sidestepping and rambling off on another tangent makes you look dozy.

it's a nicer explanation than the one i'm inclined to offer. :P
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #245 on: September 04, 2007, 01:33:59 PM »
that's cos you're an evil bastard and i'm a sweet little princess.

er...

:LMAO:

but now i'm agog - do tell me yourresponse.  please?   :eyelash:  :-*

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #246 on: September 04, 2007, 01:37:17 PM »
that's cos you're an evil bastard and i'm a sweet little princess.

er...

:LMAO:

but now i'm agog - do tell me yourresponse.  please?   :eyelash:  :-*

ok, but only because it's you.

i think hadron's replies are like that because they reflect his inner character. or rather, the lack of one. after all, there's a limit to what wikipedia or the daily telegraph can do for you.
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #247 on: September 04, 2007, 01:39:22 PM »
daily mail, my love.   :-*

i know, i know - you'd rather cut off your arm than type those words.  but be brave.  you can do it!  i have faith in you!   :clap:

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #248 on: September 04, 2007, 01:42:00 PM »
daily...
daily...
daily...
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #249 on: September 04, 2007, 01:43:41 PM »
noooooooooooooo!  not the hand you use to...

/bites tongue.

whoops.  nearly gave it away there.   :-[

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #250 on: September 04, 2007, 01:45:02 PM »
since this is the ToM thread, i have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about. :P :eyebrows:
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #251 on: September 04, 2007, 01:49:34 PM »
lol.

braille?   :eyelash:

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #252 on: September 04, 2007, 01:56:20 PM »
oh, you have the message in braille? :eyebrows:
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #253 on: September 04, 2007, 02:31:41 PM »
oh yes.   :eyelash:

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #254 on: September 04, 2007, 02:47:54 PM »

... but is it lubed?
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