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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #90 on: September 02, 2007, 06:21:20 AM »
Being smart academically has its downsides.
It does? What?
You have to do more to be fulfilled. And the good memory that goes with it is a bloody nuisance, there are lots of things I would rather forget.
Haha, bad memory is a nuisance. There are lots of things I would like to remember! I would like to be fulfilled but never am because I have to settle for something that I can achieve which is not much at all. I have an idea of what is out there and all that people can do such as go to uni and get degrees and things like this. I am aware, ignorance is something else.
Oppotunity is more important than ability these days, you dont need intellect to achieve much, its all about connections. As for bad memory, its a lot better than being able to recall every bad moment in your life like it happened 10 minutes ago. It makes forgiveness very difficult to say the least. Average joe has a simple life, lets put it that way. All he needs is a reasonable job, a home, maybe a wife and kids, and he is fulfilled and happy.

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #91 on: September 02, 2007, 06:22:56 AM »
Smartness sucks. I have a very high tested intelligence but I coudln't tie my shoes unless someone told me that was what I was supposed to do next.

I often used to dream of being stupider so I wouldn't have to be so aware of how much I miss even though I am aware of it.

As for fullfillment. I am fulfilled as long as I have my favourite text book, my cat, and jazz cd.

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #92 on: September 02, 2007, 06:28:25 AM »
Being smart academically has its downsides.
It does? What?
You have to do more to be fulfilled. And the good memory that goes with it is a bloody nuisance, there are lots of things I would rather forget.
Haha, bad memory is a nuisance. There are lots of things I would like to remember! I would like to be fulfilled but never am because I have to settle for something that I can achieve which is not much at all. I have an idea of what is out there and all that people can do such as go to uni and get degrees and things like this. I am aware, ignorance is something else.
Oppotunity is more important than ability these days, you dont need intellect to achieve much, its all about connections. As for bad memory, its a lot better than being able to recall every bad moment in your life like it happened 10 minutes ago. It makes forgiveness very difficult to say the least. Average joe has a simple life, lets put it that way. All he needs is a reasonable job, a home, maybe a wife and kids, and he is fulfilled and happy.

Quite an appropriate comment, considering your avatar.
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #93 on: September 02, 2007, 06:30:24 AM »
Being smart academically has its downsides.
It does? What?
You have to do more to be fulfilled. And the good memory that goes with it is a bloody nuisance, there are lots of things I would rather forget.
Haha, bad memory is a nuisance. There are lots of things I would like to remember! I would like to be fulfilled but never am because I have to settle for something that I can achieve which is not much at all. I have an idea of what is out there and all that people can do such as go to uni and get degrees and things like this. I am aware, ignorance is something else.
Oppotunity is more important than ability these days, you dont need intellect to achieve much, its all about connections. As for bad memory, its a lot better than being able to recall every bad moment in your life like it happened 10 minutes ago. It makes forgiveness very difficult to say the least. Average joe has a simple life, lets put it that way. All he needs is a reasonable job, a home, maybe a wife and kids, and he is fulfilled and happy.

Quite an appropriate comment, considering your avatar.
:laugh: Which bits of it?

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #94 on: September 02, 2007, 06:34:37 AM »

None. I was not referring to any bits.
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #95 on: September 02, 2007, 06:51:59 AM »
I often used to dream of being stupider so I wouldn't have to be so aware of how much I miss even though I am aware of it.
I feel that awareness is different. I am very aware of what I don't know. Yes being less self-aware sometimes would be a relief. When I was younger I had moments of clarity, where I could learn. I don't get those moments anymore. :violin:
Average joe has a simple life, lets put it that way. All he needs is a reasonable job, a home, maybe a wife and kids, and he is fulfilled and happy.
Life is more complicated for people than you think. It is difficult to get those things.
I can remember loads of bad stuff I have done because it is on my conscience, those memories are automatically in the long-term memory file. Things that people have done to me, those are just events.



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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #96 on: September 02, 2007, 10:08:10 AM »
common sense and quick wit is better than book smarts anyday.
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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #97 on: September 02, 2007, 10:12:26 AM »

Average joe has a simple life, lets put it that way. All he needs is a reasonable job, a home, maybe a wife and kids, and he is fulfilled and happy.
Life is more complicated for people than you think. It is difficult to get those things.
I can remember loads of bad stuff I have done because it is on my conscience, those memories are automatically in the long-term memory file. Things that people have done to me, those are just events.

For the average NT its pretty easy to do, lets face it thats the only thing they can really do well.

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #98 on: September 02, 2007, 11:49:29 AM »
really?  amazing how so many of them get on well in life then, isn't it?  i mean, being so completely useless at everything else, as they are. 

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #99 on: September 02, 2007, 11:56:53 AM »
really?  amazing how so many of them get on well in life then, isn't it?  i mean, being so completely useless at everything else, as they are. 

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The average NT is not in a high up position, and are satisfied with not being there, in fact a lot of them do not want to be promoted above that. I am not refering to every NT, just the average one. The clever NTs still greatly outnumber us aspies.

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #100 on: September 02, 2007, 11:57:49 AM »
define average.  and where are you getting this information from?  i can't find a wiki entry for "employment/social status of neurotypicals", myself.

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #101 on: September 02, 2007, 11:58:07 AM »
yes i am. :laugh:

wait, it doesn't work like that in the bugs bunny cartoons.  i switch what i say, then you switch waht you say and then i have just fandangoed you.

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #102 on: September 02, 2007, 12:01:19 PM »
define average.  and where are you getting this information from?  i can't find a wiki entry for "employment/social status of neurotypicals", myself.
By average I would say roughly normal in terms on intellect, aspirations and so on. As for my information, I got it from talking to lots of people who fit that over the years, although in certain cases their intellect is beyond average by quite a bit.

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #103 on: September 02, 2007, 12:34:22 PM »
define average.  and where are you getting this information from?  i can't find a wiki entry for "employment/social status of neurotypicals", myself.
By average I would say roughly normal in terms on intellect, aspirations and so on. As for my information, I got it from talking to lots of people who fit that over the years, although in certain cases their intellect is beyond average by quite a bit.

define "normal", and can you be more specific quantitatively about "lots".

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Re: Theory of Mind thread
« Reply #104 on: September 02, 2007, 12:35:59 PM »
also some comparative data regarding their difference from ASD folk in this regard.