Harry Potter storyline holes

[Mr Smith]

Before you go into explanation, please read all of this.

The elder wand in malfoy's posession.

Okay, so Malfoy became the true master of the wand by taking it by force from dumbledore at the end of book 6. Then Harry became the master by disarming Malfoy at his house. If this is the case, then the master does not need to use/have the elder wand to lose posession of it, as the wand was with dumbledore when malfoy was disarmed.

If this is the case (which it must be) then Harry not using the wand will have no effect on passing ownership of it. If someone takes his phoenix wand from him by force, he will lose ownership of the elder wand no matter where it is. So it will NOT die with him in this case, it won't die at all. It will just be hidden.

Also... what is with that baby in harry's Dumbledore "dream"?

[The_P]

Bleh. Harry Pothead shite.

[renaeden]

Also... what is with that baby in harry's Dumbledore "dream"?

I wondered that too.

[Mr Smith]

Also... what is with that baby in harry's Dumbledore "dream"?

I wondered that too.

My guess was it was a bit of voldemort that broke off Harry. Why didn't the curse kill Harry?

[McGiver]

i believe the baby is voldemort as well.
harry told him to show remorse, this was his last chance.  he saw how he would be if he didn't show remorse, and he wouldn't like it.

[renaeden]

Also... what is with that baby in harry's Dumbledore "dream"?

I wondered that too.

My guess was it was a bit of voldemort that broke off Harry.

That really makes sense. I never thought of that.

Also, the Cruciatus(sp) curse didn't work afterwards either. Something to do with the wand Voldemort was using?

[Mr Smith]

Also... what is with that baby in harry's Dumbledore "dream"?

I wondered that too.

My guess was it was a bit of voldemort that broke off Harry.

That really makes sense. I never thought of that.

Also, the Cruciatus(sp) curse didn't work afterwards either. Something to do with the wand Voldemort was using?

Yeah, good point.

I still don't get the wand/Harry/Malfoy/dumbledore/voldemort contradiction.

[McGiver]

also, harry was a descendent of the third brother.
voldemort of the second brother.

were there any clues as to who, if anybody, was descended from the first brother, the owner of the elderwand?

[Mr Smith]

also, harry was a descendent of the third brother.
voldemort of the second brother.

were there any clues as to who, if anybody, was descended from the first brother, the owner of the elderwand?

Maybe he didn't have kids.

[renaeden]

Also... what is with that baby in harry's Dumbledore "dream"?

I wondered that too.

My guess was it was a bit of voldemort that broke off Harry.

That really makes sense. I never thought of that.

Also, the Cruciatus(sp) curse didn't work afterwards either. Something to do with the wand Voldemort was using?

Yeah, good point.

I still don't get the wand/Harry/Malfoy/dumbledore/voldemort contradiction.

Callaway has written a bit about the wand part of the story. It made a few things clear to me. It is in her Ask Me thread, last page (having trouble posting links at the moment). 

[Mr Smith]

Also... what is with that baby in harry's Dumbledore "dream"?

I wondered that too.

My guess was it was a bit of voldemort that broke off Harry.

That really makes sense. I never thought of that.

Also, the Cruciatus(sp) curse didn't work afterwards either. Something to do with the wand Voldemort was using?

Yeah, good point.

I still don't get the wand/Harry/Malfoy/dumbledore/voldemort contradiction.

Callaway has written a bit about the wand part of the story. It made a few things clear to me  :http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=1210.msg222760#new

I didn't see anything that explained it. It explains why draco was the master but not why the swords powers would die if harry died naturally. Surely he would be disarmed of / have his phoenix wand taken at some stage of his life?

[renaeden]

I guess the idea could have been who would take Harry on when he had already beaten Voldemort?

[Callaway]

Also... what is with that baby in harry's Dumbledore "dream"?

I wondered that too.

My guess was it was a bit of voldemort that broke off Harry.

That really makes sense. I never thought of that.

Also, the Cruciatus(sp) curse didn't work afterwards either. Something to do with the wand Voldemort was using?

Yeah, good point.

I still don't get the wand/Harry/Malfoy/dumbledore/voldemort contradiction.

Callaway has written a bit about the wand part of the story. It made a few things clear to me  :http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=1210.msg222760#new

I didn't see anything that explained it. It explains why draco was the master but not why the swords powers would die if harry died naturally. Surely he would be disarmed of / have his phoenix wand taken at some stage of his life?

Why would anyone take Harry's Holly and Phoenix Feather wand now?

Voldemort is gone and he won't be coming back and the Death Eaters are gone as well.

So if Harry Potter lives a quiet life and dies undefeated, then the Elder wand will stay in Dumbledore's tomb and Harry will have been the last true master of it.

Even if someone did manage to disarm Harry of his Holly and Phoenix Feather wand, the Elder wand is in Dumbledore's tomb and whoever disarmed Harry would have to know where it was and know that they were the true master of it to want to go looking for it.

[McGiver]

a magical historian who has dreams of ruling the world?

[Callaway]

also, harry was a descendent of the third brother.
voldemort of the second brother.

were there any clues as to who, if anybody, was descended from the first brother, the owner of the elderwand?

I assumed that Gregorovitch, the wandmaker who made Krum's wand, was a descendant of the first brother.