Amanda Baggs' video

[Tesla]

short, precise, to the point, sharp, incisive, generall with a bit of a sting..

(incidentally, "dear" is often used as a bit of an insult over here - patronising, sort of thing).

 

(oooh, so can i pretend to be insulted, and you have to make it up to me?    )

Is it?  In that case, I must be punished for my faux pas.

I know you don't want to and that it is more punishment for you than it is for me... but I insist.

[Lucifer]

er, hang on.  i thought i was the one doing the insisting, seeing as how i've been insulted?

(gosh, those jeans look terribly uncomfortable.  are you sure you wouldn't be better off loosening them a little?    )

 

[Tesla]

They are indeed getting rather tight... tighter by the moment actually.

[Lucifer]

They are indeed getting rather tight... tighter by the moment actually.

ker-CHING!



oh, we can't be doing with that - anything i can do to help?   

[Tesla]

You're the reason for it, if anyone should do something about, it should be you.  It's only fair.

[Lucifer]

You're the reason for it, if anyone should do something about, it should be you.  It's only fair.

oh, absolutely.  i'm all for justice, you know.

mind you, they say you're either about justice or mercy.  and i'm definitely about justice, so no mercy for you, young man... 

[Tesla]

I have asked for none, and expect to receive it, in abundance.

[Lucifer]

's not all you'll receive, hot stuff.   

(someone pass me a room, for fuck's sake!)

 

[Alex179]

's not all you'll receive, hot stuff.   

(someone pass me a room, for fuck's sake!)

 

I can't quite pick up a room physically to pass it to you, but I can try to for the sake of fucking.

[Lucifer]

bless you, alex.  you are a man with a perfectly proportioned sense of priority.  (blimey - dig that alliteration!).

sadly, his lunch break is over, now...   

but stay tuned for later!

[GalileoAce]

Ok, back on topic.

Both Lucifer and Hadron raise valid points. And sniping each other because you disagree is not getting anyone anywhere. K? Good.

Amanda Baggs' videos poses an intriguing question, what is language and what is communication? Autistics know the hard way that communication isn't just verbal language, it's verbal, it's bodyn it's alot of other things. Communication can be both blunt and subtle at the same time. And indeed some people don't even use verbal language to communicate. We're now using a textual language it's visual in nature. Same with sign language.
I don't think Amanda Baggs' version of language is any less relevant than any other form of communication. But!

There's always a but. She complains that people don't make the effort to learn her language or her ways, which is a valid complaint, however she has made little effort to learn the languages of others except where it benefits her, such as typing. From what I heard in her video she seems like an incredibly lazy and selfish person, not learning to blow her nose til she was 25, but she seems quite capable of constructing this rather complex and provocative video; because it serves her purpose. And is not Autism essentially "of the self"?

Before we criticise others, be they Amanda, Lucifer or Hadron, take a few moments to learn where they're coming from and understand their point of view. That way you'll be far more equipped to rip their arguments to pieces 

[Lucifer]

er, thanks, GA.  for telling me how to do my job?

[GalileoAce]

er, thanks, GA.  for telling me how to do my job?

No worries   Glad I could help.

[Christopher McCandless]

Ok, back on topic.

Both Lucifer and Hadron raise valid points. And sniping each other because you disagree is not getting anyone anywhere. K? Good.

Amanda Baggs' videos poses an intriguing question, what is language and what is communication? Autistics know the hard way that communication isn't just verbal language, it's verbal, it's bodyn it's alot of other things. Communication can be both blunt and subtle at the same time. And indeed some people don't even use verbal language to communicate. We're now using a textual language it's visual in nature. Same with sign language.
I don't think Amanda Baggs' version of language is any less relevant than any other form of communication. But!

There's always a but. She complains that people don't make the effort to learn her language or her ways, which is a valid complaint, however she has made little effort to learn the languages of others except where it benefits her, such as typing. From what I heard in her video she seems like an incredibly lazy and selfish person, not learning to blow her nose til she was 25, but she seems quite capable of constructing this rather complex and provocative video; because it serves her purpose. And is not Autism essentially "of the self"?

Before we criticise others, be they Amanda, Lucifer or Hadron, take a few moments to learn where they're coming from and understand their point of view. That way you'll be far more equipped to rip their arguments to pieces 

*Begins long period of prayer and meditaition to try to find out where on earth Lucifer is coming from* GA, you should work for relate with that speech 

[GalileoAce]

"work for relate", what's that mean?  :: assumes it's a good thing and smiles ::