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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2006, 04:41:30 AM »
freedom
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2006, 04:51:10 AM »
Freedom to be a pawn to government and big business.
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2006, 04:52:18 AM »
aren't we all?
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2006, 04:58:27 AM »
To an extent, but i claim dole and buy fair trade. I feel im doing my bit to take from the rich and give to the poor. We should all consider  living an AMish lifestyle until we get a communist government in.
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2006, 05:00:56 AM »
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2006, 05:01:16 AM »
i purposefully scam walmart and take my family to disneyland with the profits.

lesser of two evils, not likely, but they have really fast rollercoasters.
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2006, 05:05:23 AM »
Quote from: McJagger on July 09, 2006, 05:01:16 AM
i purposefully scam walmart and take my family to disneyland with the profits.

lesser of two evils, not likely, but they have really fast rollercoasters.
How do You scam WalMart?
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2006, 05:05:34 AM »
Quote from: kevv729 on July 09, 2006, 05:00:56 AM
Quote from: McJagger on July 09, 2006, 04:41:30 AM
freedom
Freedom from what?

i dont view freedom as restrictive.  i view it more as in personal options.

i get to pick what i do, where i do it, and when i do it.

i don't have to report to the same place.  i get to work or not work, as much or as little as i like (i only get paid to work, sadly)  and i am not told what to do, i choose what job i want to do that night.


there are 20-30 different companies i can work for and over 100 different job discriptions to choose from.  if i select a job, report, and decide i don't like it i can call a replacement, and go home.


freedom.
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2006, 05:11:55 AM »
Of course your freedom is restrictive. You are lucky enough to have unusually generous employment terms but you have to pay taxes, submit to searches if the cops decide, etc. Like it or not, as long as you remain a citizen your freedoms are restricted.
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2006, 05:15:00 AM »
I see. But Eamonn is right too. So what is True Freedom then I wonder. How do We truly live Our little Lives that We Live in the end.
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2006, 05:22:36 AM »
you take freedom wherever you can.

there is no better offering of freedom in the workplace than at the docks
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2006, 05:56:30 AM »
Still, you're not as free as an amish person or a tramp.
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2006, 10:52:27 AM »
or your catman video guy
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2006, 05:07:41 AM »
financial freedom is ok.

in the past five nights i have actually been at work for 20 hours.  five nights of pay $2,400.oo
i am not sure if doctors make that much an hour after you factor in all their liabilities.
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Re: Longshoreman
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2006, 03:13:35 AM »
Quote from: Eamonn on July 09, 2006, 05:56:30 AM
Still, you're not as free as an amish person or a tramp.
moreso.

how can you equate freedom as something simply associated with and individual and government.

Time is an impotant issue of freedom.  Don't you think that the omish would rather be doing something else with their time like reading the bible, playing with their kids, digging a new hole out back, whence they taketh their shats?

and a tramp is the lamest example that you could have brought up.  do you think that a tramp wouldn't rather have a greater freedom of choice.  having a choice is the best measuring stick for freedom.
a tramp would rather be eating at a five star restaurant with fine scotch and cooked meat, rather than eating out of your garbage can.  a tramp is by no means free.  they are completely and utterly limited.  if they want freedom they would be more free, if they were dead.
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