Limits of free speech

[Christopher McCandless]

Yeah its fine until you have ten year olds getting bullyed on the basis of dick size. As for that gaming site, how old do you mean by legally considered children? Are the 16? 13? 10?

Ranges. The youngest in the section that gets
REALLY nasty is 12. But as young as 8 in sections
where some of this gets mentioned. And no, I
don't think anyone is getting bullied for that. Just
teased about this that and the other.

So this gaming website has dire moderation. As for the bullying, i would be way more concerned about what happens offline as a result of the online, rather than simply just what you see online.

[Calandale]

So this gaming website has dire moderation.

I'd argue that it is one of the best moderated sites
that I've seen. Nothing is allowed to go too far,
but a lot of freedom is encouraged. Refreshing
for something commercial.

As for the bullying, i would be way more concerned about what happens offline as a result of the online, rather than simply just what you see online.

And you think that Mr. Mark discussing his dick is going to
cause 10 year olds to start bitch slapping one another with them?

Not like they aren't likely to anyhow, if they're on the football team,
from what I've heard.

That post is pretty calm, by WP
standards. Which may be why there
is an attempt to more heavily enforce
puritan ideals. I think that's a mistake,
but wouldn't be leaving over just that
decision.

[Christopher McCandless]

So this gaming website has dire moderation.

I'd argue that it is one of the best moderated sites
that I've seen. Nothing is allowed to go too far,
but a lot of freedom is encouraged. Refreshing
for something commercial.

As for the bullying, i would be way more concerned about what happens offline as a result of the online, rather than simply just what you see online.

And you think that Mr. Mark discussing his dick is going to
cause 10 year olds to start bitch slapping one another with them?

Not like they aren't likely to anyhow, if they're on the football team,
from what I've heard.

That post is pretty calm, by WP
standards. Which may be why there
is an attempt to more heavily enforce
puritan ideals. I think that's a mistake,
but wouldn't be leaving over just that
decision.

Well Mrmark discussing dicks wont, but someone else doing it might. Making kids sexually aware at such a young age in that sort of fashion can damage them though.

[Calandale]

Well Mrmark discussing dicks wont, but someone else doing it might. Making kids sexually aware at such a young age in that sort of fashion can damage them though.

I don't really agree. Those who are of "such a young age" probably
aren't reading that thread. They'd get bored. Those who are 13+
(the min age w/out consent) aren't going to be shocked, I'd wager.

[Christopher McCandless]

Well Mrmark discussing dicks wont, but someone else doing it might. Making kids sexually aware at such a young age in that sort of fashion can damage them though.

I don't really agree. Those who are of "such a young age" probably
aren't reading that thread. They'd get bored. Those who are 13+
(the min age w/out consent) aren't going to be shocked, I'd wager.

Yes the average 13 year old wouldnt have a problem, but i suspect that quite alot of the kids on that website are pretty messed up, and that could cause problems.

[Calandale]

Yes the average 13 year old wouldnt have a problem, but i suspect that quite alot of the kids on that website are pretty messed up, and that could cause problems.

It was my experience that those the most
at risk were those who needed the liberties
the most.

Yeah, I saw some pretty ugly crap, and did
issue a warning or two about some things.
(we had one member who was bullying young
children that age).

[Lucifer]

Well Mrmark discussing dicks wont, but someone else doing it might. Making kids sexually aware at such a young age in that sort of fashion can damage them though.

I don't really agree. Those who are of "such a young age" probably
aren't reading that thread. They'd get bored. Those who are 13+
(the min age w/out consent) aren't going to be shocked, I'd wager.

not so.  primary school kids have an avid interest about anything to do with sex, even as young as 6 or 7, in some cases.

as adults, we have the responsibility to make sure they're allowed to be kids for a while.

[Calandale]

not so.  primary school kids have an avid interest about anything to do with sex, even as young as 6 or 7, in some cases.

Really? Maybe. I can certainly remember
being absolutely confused by other kids
discussions/actions, at around 9 or 10.

For me, I wasn't interested in sex
until long after Bill Cosby taught me
to masturbate, probably around 13 or
14.

[Christopher McCandless]

Yes the average 13 year old wouldnt have a problem, but i suspect that quite alot of the kids on that website are pretty messed up, and that could cause problems.

It was my experience that those the most
at risk were those who needed the liberties
the most.

Yeah, I saw some pretty ugly crap, and did
issue a warning or two about some things.
(we had one member who was bullying young
children that age).

Yes there is always going to be ugly crap, but the fact that adults are partually responsible for this sort of crap takes it beyond playground bullying doesnt it. As for the liberties, young people have too many these days, and too many leave school with no respect whatsoever.

[Calandale]

Yes there is always going to be ugly crap, but the fact that adults are partually responsible for this sort of crap takes it beyond playground bullying doesnt it.

Far beyond. But, we operated under guidelines
which didn't allow us to act then. Now, if I saw
the action I would probably move much more
effectively. If I remained a mod.

As for the liberties, young people have too many these days, and too many leave school with no respect whatsoever.

Maybe. I'm not going to judge that.
Respect can be dangerous as hell.
Think of the Catholic Church, and
what the 'respect' due to the
priests enabled.

[Christopher McCandless]

Yes there is always going to be ugly crap, but the fact that adults are partually responsible for this sort of crap takes it beyond playground bullying doesnt it.

Far beyond. But, we operated under guidelines
which didn't allow us to act then. Now, if I saw
the action I would probably move much more
effectively. If I remained a mod.

As for the liberties, young people have too many these days, and too many leave school with no respect whatsoever.

Maybe. I'm not going to judge that.
Respect can be dangerous as hell.
Think of the Catholic Church, and
what the 'respect' due to the
priests enabled.

Well at least they have sorted out the guidelines slightly at WP
As for respect, your point is valid, but now its gone too far the other way, especially in the UK

[Calandale]

Well at least they have sorted out the guidelines slightly at WP
As for respect, your point is valid, but now its gone too far the other way, especially in the UK

1. If anything, they're more muddled then ever.
At least in my mind. Part of why I'm gone.

2. It's always a double edged sword.

[Christopher McCandless]

Well at least they have sorted out the guidelines slightly at WP
As for respect, your point is valid, but now its gone too far the other way, especially in the UK

1. If anything, they're more muddled then ever.
At least in my mind. Part of why I'm gone.

2. It's always a double edged sword.

You should have done something spectacular rather than simply leaving...

[Kosmonaut]

Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.

I don't quite see why.

 
Thats probably why you moderate at PaedoPlanet.

[Christopher McCandless]

Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.

I don't quite see why.

 
Thats probably why you moderate at PaedoPlanet.