but we also have two web monkeys, who each take regular backups of the site. and both of them are pretty keen on the idea of personal freedoms as well.
also, haven't you considered what would happen to this site if those freedoms were taken away?
we would suck as much as WP currrently does.
Yeah, I obviously meant that they'd be part of this.
But, it just seems more legitimate to have them work
as part of a group, rather than unilateraly, as yet another
last resort.
We do act as part of the group already, or hadn't you noticed? The structure might be informal, but its already accessible. Thats precisely what happened with the Atomikunt incident - it was necessary for an admin or webmonkey to make a unilateral judgement call on how to deal with the situation. The bulk of the information regarding what was going on came from the WC - which is as it should have been. I agree with Scrapheap in as much as if you want to run the site with few people being more influential than others, its
your responsibility as WC members to be proactive in telling the site staff what you want us to do, if its the same couple of folk shouting up all the time they become more influential by default. Its inevitable. However two things IMO prevent the emergence of a MrMark figure here - firstly, while Alex has capricious whims and intermittently seeks direct control of the forums, me and Odeon do not - so while we have 'ultimate' control, there have been very few occasions when it has been necessary to act unilaterally without a given mandate (e.g. dealing with Omega's treachery), and the return of the WC and reform of the admin role was aimed at reducing the likelihood of it being necessary to resort to it in future.
In the unlikely event of a MrMark being elected they'd soon have their behaviour questioned I'm sure, since the WC can vote to remove an admin they have elected if they have no confidence in them. And some of us are used to clipping power trippers' wings.
