What have you bought lately?

[Lucifer]

what's wrong with your skin, my love?  

[odeon]

Nothing. It's not for me.

[Lucifer]

[DirtDawg]

8800gt goes nice. I like mine. I thought there may have been a 'real' new geforce 9 around about now but it seems quiet in the nvidia camp at the moment. Lack of competition from AMD/ATI I suppose.

But thats the thing, you have the G92 8800s (GS/GT/GTS512) which by the sounds of the 9 in G92 are 9xxx series cards with an 8xxx series name. I think they are just having trouble making anything faster at the moment seeing as either can AMD/ATi.

I mean their top line card now has 2x GPUs on it, and we all know how well that works out in the real world.

No, we don't all. Tell us, please.

Aren't there several multi-core cards available? What is it that creates problems?

[klox]

8800gt goes nice. I like mine. I thought there may have been a 'real' new geforce 9 around about now but it seems quiet in the nvidia camp at the moment. Lack of competition from AMD/ATI I suppose.

But thats the thing, you have the G92 8800s (GS/GT/GTS512) which by the sounds of the 9 in G92 are 9xxx series cards with an 8xxx series name. I think they are just having trouble making anything faster at the moment seeing as either can AMD/ATi.

I mean their top line card now has 2x GPUs on it, and we all know how well that works out in the real world.

No, we don't all. Tell us, please.

Aren't there several multi-core cards available? What is it that creates problems?

I think he is getting at the fact that performance gains are nowhere near two-fold and quite often a paltry 10% in a lot of games. They are just generally a clumsy design.

[Phlexor]

8800gt goes nice. I like mine. I thought there may have been a 'real' new geforce 9 around about now but it seems quiet in the nvidia camp at the moment. Lack of competition from AMD/ATI I suppose.

But thats the thing, you have the G92 8800s (GS/GT/GTS512) which by the sounds of the 9 in G92 are 9xxx series cards with an 8xxx series name. I think they are just having trouble making anything faster at the moment seeing as either can AMD/ATi.

I mean their top line card now has 2x GPUs on it, and we all know how well that works out in the real world.

No, we don't all. Tell us, please.

Aren't there several multi-core cards available? What is it that creates problems?

I think he is getting at the fact that performance gains are nowhere near two-fold and quite often a paltry 10% in a lot of games. They are just generally a clumsy design.

Yeah that, at best you might get about 30% performance boost in real world gaming situations. Considering its to GPU cores and costs an ass load.... meh.

[DirtDawg]

8800gt goes nice. I like mine. I thought there may have been a 'real' new geforce 9 around about now but it seems quiet in the nvidia camp at the moment. Lack of competition from AMD/ATI I suppose.

But thats the thing, you have the G92 8800s (GS/GT/GTS512) which by the sounds of the 9 in G92 are 9xxx series cards with an 8xxx series name. I think they are just having trouble making anything faster at the moment seeing as either can AMD/ATi.

I mean their top line card now has 2x GPUs on it, and we all know how well that works out in the real world.

No, we don't all. Tell us, please.

Aren't there several multi-core cards available? What is it that creates problems?

I think he is getting at the fact that performance gains are nowhere near two-fold and quite often a paltry 10% in a lot of games. They are just generally a clumsy design.

Yeah that, at best you might get about 30% performance boost in real world gaming situations. Considering its to GPU cores and costs an ass load.... meh.

Maybe I'm confused by my understanding of camera and lighting equipment on real world things in three dimensions, in real time, but in order to really make a benchmark improvement in speed and power in computing, don't you really need to use a logarithmic scale rather than a linear scale to compare terms and processes?

Adding to this ""real world""  application of our thought processes, wouldn't you really need to think of improving computing capabilities in the cube range at least rather than at 2X?

I know that Odeon is more the physicist than I, but aren't gamers and graphics companies generally computing in THREE dimensions in order to increase the graphic realism?

If so then "doubling your power" (like adding one processor) would lead to virtually no gain, right? For instance, if you are going to move one hundred pixels in three dimensional space, don't you need to calculate at least one hundred thousand positions in order to make any movement predictable. That only gets you started yet, also.


Anyway, I'm not trying to sound like a know-it-all, I'm trying to ask a complex question in a simple way.

[Phlexor]

8800gt goes nice. I like mine. I thought there may have been a 'real' new geforce 9 around about now but it seems quiet in the nvidia camp at the moment. Lack of competition from AMD/ATI I suppose.

But thats the thing, you have the G92 8800s (GS/GT/GTS512) which by the sounds of the 9 in G92 are 9xxx series cards with an 8xxx series name. I think they are just having trouble making anything faster at the moment seeing as either can AMD/ATi.

I mean their top line card now has 2x GPUs on it, and we all know how well that works out in the real world.

No, we don't all. Tell us, please.

Aren't there several multi-core cards available? What is it that creates problems?

I think he is getting at the fact that performance gains are nowhere near two-fold and quite often a paltry 10% in a lot of games. They are just generally a clumsy design.

Yeah that, at best you might get about 30% performance boost in real world gaming situations. Considering its to GPU cores and costs an ass load.... meh.

Maybe I'm confused by my understanding of camera and lighting equipment on real world things in three dimensions, in real time, but in order to really make a benchmark improvement in speed and power in computing, don't you really need to use a logarithmic scale rather than a linear scale to compare terms and processes?

Adding to this ""real world""  application of our thought processes, wouldn't you really need to think of improving computing capabilities in the cube range at least rather than at 2X?

I know that Odeon is more the physicist than I, but aren't gamers and graphics companies generally computing in THREE dimensions in order to increase the graphic realism?

If so then "doubling your power" (like adding one processor) would lead to virtually no gain, right? For instance, if you are going to move one hundred pixels in three dimensional space, don't you need to calculate at least one hundred thousand positions in order to make any movement predictable. That only gets you started yet, also.


Anyway, I'm not trying to sound like a know-it-all, I'm trying to ask a complex question in a simple way.

Well on the simple side of things, what you have is a 3D scene represented as 3D objects as verticies in a 3D space also represented as verticies, what the hardware has to do is represent that as a 2D image. Even with a 3D headset or what have you, its still just 2x 2D images, one for each eye. everything else is just light sources and masking and how they are represented on surfaces and bump mapping etc.

Someone correct me if Im wrong or if I just worded it wrong.

[Blasted]

Films

[Calandale]

I got a poster of two red-eyed tree frogs today
I don't know where I will put it
It won't match my maps

Current obsession: psychology. 'scuse lecture.

My idiot psychiatrist tried to diagnose me with OCD. Twice. I read several books about it and concluded that not only didn't I have OCD, I didn't have an anxiety disorder, period. Turns out the guy can't tell OCD obsessions from Aspie obsessions, OCD neatness from Aspie need for organization. You'd think telling OCD from Asperger's would be easy, but apparently it's not. Not that you can't have both, of course... actually I would guess OCD is more common with Aspies than with NTs, because we're naturally organized, and comforted by repetition, predictability, etc.

Anyway, so far as I can tell, OCD's an anxiety disorder... kind of... so there's a bunch of different things you can try with it. There's the anti-anxiety pills, yeah; but they're not going to do anything if you can't get at the basis of the problem--the thoughts that get stuck in your head, and the way you have to do stuff to make yourself feel less anxious. Pills never solve anything; they just make it easier to solve... kind of like putting oil in your engine; it won't make the engine start up but it sure makes it easier. So there's a lot of things you can try (and probably take a lot of practice) to try to live with obsessions (OCD ones, not Aspie ones)... One guy I met just started distracting himself by doing something non-repetitive whenever he felt like he needed to count stuff... he had kind of mild OCD though, and he was taking some kind of pill too. I guess if it'd been stronger OCD he would've just ended up with a new compulsion out of it.

I've also heard that OCD is something like your brain getting the hiccups--the tendency to not be able to throw away one thought and start with a new one. Apparently there are medications that help with that... originally developed for seizures, I think?... Anyway, they probably need you to work on the OCD habits, too; another way of making it easier.

Oh, and there's the "suppression" theory. If you try not to think of something, you think of it even more--that's true for everybody but apparently for OCD brains it causes anxiety, causes you to feel like you can't stop your own thoughts, like you're out of control. If you could somehow stop yourself from trying to suppress the obsession, then maybe the OCD wouldn't be as annoying. Don't know if it would help, but it's an idea.

Then there's the phobic tendencies... when you start to fear certain things or actions... Those can get dealt with the same way you deal with a phobia. Technical name is progressive desensitization; in practical terms it means easing into doing or encountering whatever you fear, so you get used to it. You start out with something that's just a little bit uncomfortable and work up to until you can tolerate the worst possible thing... Like if you were scared of heights you'd start out by imagining standing on a step stool and work up to actually going up to the 12th floor balcony. That kind of thing. Helps to learn relaxation techniques.

Speaking of relaxation... That helps with everything, even if you don't have OCD... Highly recommended to learn a few things... Not like the crazy new-agey stuff, but the kind of thing that can get the tension out of your muscles and stop you getting your blood pressure up about stuff.

[Phlexor]

Bought Super Mario Galaxy for the Wii and 2 Wii Remote Charging stations so I can charge all 4 remotes at once if need be (plus you need all the remotes to have rechargable battery packs with pass through contacts on the battery covers).

[renaeden]

Two tyres for the car. Now I am waiting for the registration bill to come in the mail.

[odeon]

Bought "Der Untergang" on DVD today.

[Phlexor]

Bought a remote control for my PlayStation2, and Star Trek Conquest for the Wii

[Lucifer]

not a lot - too poor.