Interrogate PMS Elle!

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Perhaps we can rename this thread "Interrogate PMS Elle, then she ignores you".   

[odeon]

You do know that the world isn't about you, right? Theory of mind can be such a bitch.

[El]

Perhaps we can rename this thread "Interrogate PMS Elle, then she ignores you".   

How often do you see me posting, in general?  I'm not on call to answer your random questions.

[El]

if you don't want to watch the whole thing that's understandable. You can get the jist of it in the first 15 minutes.

You want me to sit and watch a youtube video for 15 minutes?  Jeebus.  copy/paste a transcript and I'll get back to you.

It's not necessary to watch any of it, only if you want to see his explanations for his premise.

Do you think he's right that BPD and HPD are just (predominately female) manifestations of narcissism and the 3 disorders should be lumped together or is he wrong??

They ARE lumped together.  "Cluster B."

I think NPD is a distinct disorder from HPD and BPD, but PDs in general often run together.  One of the most common co-occurring diagnoses for a PD is another PD.

I don't often see HPD really being used or discussed as clinically useful or relevant in my line of work.  BPD, NPD and ASPD, yes, and as distinct disorders, but I've heard the argument before that they're different manifestations of the same thing.  DSM diagnoses are based on symptom presentation, not etiology, though, so it's kind of moot; the three presentations are different enough that you'd approach them differently, clinically.   

[Yuri Bezmenov]

I don't often see HPD really being used or discussed as clinically useful or relevant in my line of work.

I don't know exactly what you do but it's kinda odd you don't come across HPD's more often, I've met a couple that I know of. Complete trainwreck personalities, always manufacturing fake drama because they are easily bored. There's no such thing as bad attention for them unlike a narcissist who needs praise. They sexually act out in inappropriate ways and it's also common for them to shoplift.   

BPD, NPD and ASPD, yes, and as distinct disorders,

Actually, he argues that ASPD is a distinct disorder because unlike the other 3, people with ASPD tend to not care how other people perceive them. Narcissists are especially keen to maintain a public image.

 

but I've heard the argument before that they're different manifestations of the same thing.  DSM diagnoses are based on symptom presentation, not etiology, though, so it's kind of moot; the three presentations are different enough that you'd approach them differently, clinically.   

This is interesting. Wouldn't the different clinical approaches suggest a different etiology??

[Phoenix]

Holy shit. I didn't realize El was Elle. Don't mind me. I've been gone too long.