Where did the US screw up?

[Gopher Gary]

You aren't setting the bar very high are you, fur-face?

I don't know. You seem to be agreeing with something Pyraxis doesn't even seem to be saying, so worry about your own bar. 

[odeon]

Me, I guess I regard the whole thing as little more than a modern, pseudo-science version of Nostradamus with a fair degree of hindsight and self-fulfillment thrown in. Patterns are everywhere. It's in our nature to spot them. Correlation does not equal causation, though.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Me, I guess I regard the whole thing as little more than a modern, pseudo-science version of Nostradamus with a fair degree of hindsight and self-fulfillment thrown in. Patterns are everywhere. It's in our nature to spot them. Correlation does not equal causation, though.

Yet another evidence free claim.

Given your propensity to attack ideas without evidence, while not offering any ideas of you own, I have to reiterate that you obviously masturbate to Derrida and Foucault.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

The critiques he applies to it are kind of short-sighted, though.

Didn't even view it as a critique. The article seemed to say, here's an explanation of the theory, someone should test the theory, someone other than the author should test it though, but here's an article about an idea of how to test it.

Exactly, However I don't agree with the standards that they use there.

It doesn't take a majority of a personality type to influence society.

Look at the SJW's, there's not a whole lot of them but they exist in the most influential sectors of society: Mainstream media, Hollywood, the recording industry, online news outlets and in most major universities.

in the 1930's only a handful of Germans were Nazis....

[Al Swearegen]

The critiques he applies to it are kind of short-sighted, though.

Didn't even view it as a critique. The article seemed to say, here's an explanation of the theory, someone should test the theory, someone other than the author should test it though, but here's an article about an idea of how to test it.

Exactly, However I don't agree with the standards that they use there.

It doesn't take a majority of a personality type to influence society.

Look at the SJW's, there's not a whole lot of them but they exist in the most influential sectors of society: Mainstream media, Hollywood, the recording industry, online news outlets and in most major universities.

in the 1930's only a handful of Germans were Nazis....

I mostly agree. I do not think there is only a handful. In comparative terms there is enough of them to leverage society in a pretty horrific way. I think one of the craziest thing is that people wanting to avoid the ire of SJWs will pander to them and don't just say after every demand "No, Go fuck yourself" over and over.

[Pyraxis]

I think looking at what people have picked out for generational patterns is food for thought, whether or not there's any direction causation.

[odeon]

Me, I guess I regard the whole thing as little more than a modern, pseudo-science version of Nostradamus with a fair degree of hindsight and self-fulfillment thrown in. Patterns are everywhere. It's in our nature to spot them. Correlation does not equal causation, though.

Yet another evidence free claim.

Given your propensity to attack ideas without evidence, while not offering any ideas of you own, I have to reiterate that you obviously masturbate to Derrida and Foucault.

I provided an opinion. What you've done, otoh, is little more than providing a Wikipedia link. And follow up with things like this:

Exactly, However I don't agree with the standards that they use there.

It doesn't take a majority of a personality type to influence society.

Look at the SJW's, there's not a whole lot of them but they exist in the most influential sectors of society: Mainstream media, Hollywood, the recording industry, online news outlets and in most major universities.

in the 1930's only a handful of Germans were Nazis....

Is this what you call evidence? Not only is it mostly opinion, what isn't is wrong:

in the 1930's only a handful of Germans were Nazis....

This is where you supply your excuses and pitiful attempts at an explanation.

[Al Swearegen]

Me, I guess I regard the whole thing as little more than a modern, pseudo-science version of Nostradamus with a fair degree of hindsight and self-fulfillment thrown in. Patterns are everywhere. It's in our nature to spot them. Correlation does not equal causation, though.

Yet another evidence free claim.

Given your propensity to attack ideas without evidence, while not offering any ideas of you own, I have to reiterate that you obviously masturbate to Derrida and Foucault.

I provided an opinion. What you've done, otoh, is little more than providing a Wikipedia link. And follow up with things like this:

Exactly, However I don't agree with the standards that they use there.

It doesn't take a majority of a personality type to influence society.

Look at the SJW's, there's not a whole lot of them but they exist in the most influential sectors of society: Mainstream media, Hollywood, the recording industry, online news outlets and in most major universities.

in the 1930's only a handful of Germans were Nazis....

Is this what you call evidence? Not only is it mostly opinion, what isn't is wrong:

in the 1930's only a handful of Germans were Nazis....

This is where you supply your excuses and pitiful attempts at an explanation.

To be fair,  what Scrap says is a little overgeneralised but it seems a reasonable theory. I also agree that it does not take a majority to elicit change, and sometimes that change is terribly harmful for society.

People have great propensity for self-sacrifice and battling adversity but also for greed and self-interest. When things are hard there is little energy to put into victimology and plubing deep philosophical questions. When things are free and life is good, social parasites will breed.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Me, I guess I regard the whole thing as little more than a modern, pseudo-science version of Nostradamus with a fair degree of hindsight and self-fulfillment thrown in. Patterns are everywhere. It's in our nature to spot them. Correlation does not equal causation, though.

Yet another evidence free claim.

Given your propensity to attack ideas without evidence, while not offering any ideas of you own, I have to reiterate that you obviously masturbate to Derrida and Foucault.

I provided an opinion.

No you didn't. You provided a postmodernist, gobbledygook attempt at critical theory.

Is this what you call evidence? Not only is it mostly opinion, what isn't is wrong:

in the 1930's only a handful of Germans were Nazis....

This is where you supply your excuses and pitiful attempts at an explanation.

In 1933, the German population was at 65,362,115. Nazi Party membership was at slightly over 2 million which means that just 3% of the population were actual Nazis.

Fuck, are you this stupid??

[Jack]

I think looking at what people have picked out for generational patterns is food for thought, whether or not there's any direction causation.

Agreed. Even if it's 500 years of coincidence, it's still very interesting.

[Jack]

Exactly, However I don't agree with the standards that they use there.

It doesn't take a majority of a personality type to influence society.

Didn't think the test idea was terrible, because it starts with a sampling of people who are 'notable', which probably also means influential. The 80% agreement wasn't a standard for the results, but rather a standard for 80% of the coders to agree what is the best archetype to assign to a person in the sampling.

[Jack]

pseudo-science

Sociological theory kind of is what it is.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Exactly, However I don't agree with the standards that they use there.

It doesn't take a majority of a personality type to influence society.

Didn't think the test idea was terrible, because it starts with a sampling of people who are 'notable', which probably also means influential. The 80% agreement wasn't a standard for the results, but rather a standard for 80% of the coders to agree what is the best archetype to assign to a person in the sampling.

Yeah, Notable doesn't necessary translate into Influential, I think you'd have to limit the study to those who were known to be influential for their times.

[Jack]

Exactly, However I don't agree with the standards that they use there.

It doesn't take a majority of a personality type to influence society.

Didn't think the test idea was terrible, because it starts with a sampling of people who are 'notable', which probably also means influential. The 80% agreement wasn't a standard for the results, but rather a standard for 80% of the coders to agree what is the best archetype to assign to a person in the sampling.

Yeah, Notable doesn't necessary translate into Influential, I think you'd have to limit the study to those who were known to be influential for their times.

Took a closer look at The American National Biography and it's for historical figures, so it's probably a good resource to find a good random sampling of influential people who are representative of their era, and spanning across the entire time scope of the theory.

[odeon]

Me, I guess I regard the whole thing as little more than a modern, pseudo-science version of Nostradamus with a fair degree of hindsight and self-fulfillment thrown in. Patterns are everywhere. It's in our nature to spot them. Correlation does not equal causation, though.

Yet another evidence free claim.

Given your propensity to attack ideas without evidence, while not offering any ideas of you own, I have to reiterate that you obviously masturbate to Derrida and Foucault.

I provided an opinion.

No you didn't. You provided a postmodernist, gobbledygook attempt at critical theory.

Is this what you call evidence? Not only is it mostly opinion, what isn't is wrong:

in the 1930's only a handful of Germans were Nazis....

This is where you supply your excuses and pitiful attempts at an explanation.

In 1933, the German population was at 65,362,115. Nazi Party membership was at slightly over 2 million which means that just 3% of the population were actual Nazis.

Fuck, are you this stupid??

Two million = a handful