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Contentment vs. Happiness
« on: May 26, 2007, 04:18:27 AM »
Always defined the two as different.
And always viewed happiness as the
better of the two. Let me define my
terms:

Contentment: The overall feeling that
all is good. Comfort. No real need to
strive or fight.

Happiness: The giddy highs which can
be achieved at particularly intense
moments of pleasure.

The latter is related to my probably
being bi-polar (though I prefer manic
depressive - it sounds much more
romantic). I got it from acting; staying
up very late, hanging out, and being
silly with friends. Sometimes from
wordplay, and intense spamming -
cackling and giggling gleefully as
I post. Mainly now though, form
dancing. I suspect people who take
euphorics feel this way.

The former, mainly when I was with
my wife. But, it seems that the two
are incompatible. Both the deep depressions
and the giddy highs disappeared, when I
was truly content. And, I knew that some-
thing was missing. Ah, the highs did come
occasionally, and maybe I could have sought
them out more - so perhaps that's a load of
crap. Something did seem to be missing though.

Tonight, after my dancing frenzy, I began to wonder
if I might not want contentment again. It's what I
most missed, but I don't think that I'd want to give
up the tremendous rushes in exchange for it. I suspect
that I'd be willing to give up the depression, however.

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2007, 06:09:37 AM »
i think that....
nevermind.
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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2007, 06:27:56 AM »
Happiness.
Contentment may come back again, but it depends on what I have in my life at the time.

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2007, 03:54:51 PM »
Neither. I want the intensity of having a mission, knowing that it's worthwhile, fighting difficult odds, and winning.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2007, 04:09:00 PM »
Neither. I want the intensity of having a mission, knowing that it's worthwhile, fighting difficult odds, and winning.

Sounds like the rush of happiness to me.
Just with a few restrictions on how it's
gained.

I too would love that, and when I was young
(maybe still sometimes) would seek such a mission.
But nothing ever seemed worthy, nor certain to
be good.

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2007, 04:16:02 PM »
I'm not certain that what I do is good. Have to build it into my strategy that my judgements and perception may be flawed, so be open to change to a degree. But I hold making judgements to the best of my ability, to be as close to good as I'm going to get, so pragmatism allows it.

As for worthy - I'm worthy, my happiness is worthy, the people around me are worthy, and pragmatism says that's good enough too.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2007, 04:22:17 PM »
Since your not locked away,
nor are you so busy as to
be prevented from posting
here, I would suspect that
your goals are too mundane
for my tastes.

Though, when I see the poor runaway
kids, on the streets here, I almost manage
to convince myself that I could do something
to help them, without trying to tear everything
down. Problem is, I only feel moved enough when
drunk.

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2007, 04:32:35 PM »
Allowing myself to be locked away would run counter to my goals.

I am a human being and wired in such a way that it becomes necessary to relieve stress on occasion by doing things like posting here.

You know nothing about my goals.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2007, 04:42:10 PM »
I am a human being and wired in such a way that it becomes necessary to relieve stress on occasion by doing things like posting here.

You know nothing about my goals.

1. odd choice for relief from the overwhelming burden, but I'll buy it, for now.

2. True. So, why speak of them at all,
unless you want them revealed?

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2007, 12:19:09 AM »
2. Because in the moment of speaking about them, I didn't give a fuck whether they would be revealed or not.

1. I play god here. Relief from helplessness.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2007, 01:27:24 AM »
Do you care now?

Why do you feel helpless?

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2007, 02:18:03 AM »
I too would love that, and when I was young
(maybe still sometimes) would seek such a mission.
But nothing ever seemed worthy, nor certain to
be good.

Ditto.  :(

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2007, 07:03:52 AM »
When I'm old enough that I have to retire, I hope to be content, or die as soon as I walk out of the building.  I know I can't be "happy" all the time, but I don't think I could be content all the time either unless very heavily sedated all the time.  I agree with Pyraxis; I want to keep striving, at least for now.
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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2007, 06:17:05 PM »
Do you care now?

Enough to give you the runaround, but not enough to bother hiding the fact that I'm giving you the runaround.

Why do you feel helpless?

Inability to prevent pain and death.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.

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Re: Contentment vs. Happiness
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2007, 06:33:14 PM »
Do you care now?

Enough to give you the runaround, but not enough to bother hiding the fact that I'm giving you the runaround.

Why do you feel helpless?

Inability to prevent pain and death.
i feel honored.
you care enough not to tell me.
why?
Misunderstood.