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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #75 on: May 22, 2007, 07:48:23 AM »
The second seems the most likely. Indistinguishable from the first.

The third seems the most sane, and therefore impossible.

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #76 on: May 22, 2007, 07:53:59 AM »
And in your framework, if something is indistinguisable from something else, it is actually not different?
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #77 on: May 22, 2007, 07:57:36 AM »
Well, actually I'm pretty sure that all things are one.

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #78 on: May 22, 2007, 08:01:36 AM »
Is that a genuine belief or a glib dodge?
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #79 on: May 22, 2007, 08:02:33 AM »
Yes.


It strikes me that individuating is impossible.
Just another case of models, which aren't
too useful.

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #80 on: May 22, 2007, 10:15:05 AM »
Define "models," define "useful," and tell me wat you find in this world to be useful.  I'm guessing you don't find much of anything useful, which makes calling something not useful meaningless.
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #81 on: May 22, 2007, 03:36:05 PM »
1. Models are the mental conception that
we have of the underlying reality. A refined
version of our perceptions. This is why I didn't
really want to say perceptions include our intellectual
assessment - as I see some distinction. They are similar
though.

2. True. I'm not sure that anything is useful. Not sure
that anything is. Take my own existence on faith. But,
if there is some ultimate 'good,' then utility would be
defined in terms of it - and hence usefulness as well.

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #82 on: May 22, 2007, 05:06:36 PM »
1. Models are the mental conception that
we have of the underlying reality. A refined
version of our perceptions. This is why I didn't
really want to say perceptions include our intellectual
assessment - as I see some distinction. They are similar
though.

2. True. I'm not sure that anything is useful. Not sure
that anything is. Take my own existence on faith. But,
if there is some ultimate 'good,' then utility would be
defined in terms of it - and hence usefulness as well.
i always thought that a list was supposed to be A,B, when their was only two examples.
Misunderstood.

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #83 on: May 22, 2007, 05:29:22 PM »
Numbers and letters are the same.

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #84 on: May 22, 2007, 08:17:07 PM »
Calendale, do you believe there is some ultimate "good," or is that the same sort of impossible hypothetical women tell themselves:  "If only I were 5'10" and 105 lbs, I would be completely happy."?
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #85 on: May 22, 2007, 08:32:42 PM »
Calendale, do you believe there is some ultimate "good," or is that the same sort of impossible hypothetical women tell themselves:  "If only I were 5'10" and 105 lbs, I would be completely happy."?


I direct you to an argument I made
when much less weary:

http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=2367.0

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #86 on: May 23, 2007, 07:54:09 AM »
About your wii?  Or are you just reminding me you're a nihilist?
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #87 on: May 23, 2007, 07:55:40 AM »
I'm 5'10" and 160 lbs.  8)

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #88 on: May 23, 2007, 07:56:28 AM »
I'm 5'10" and 160 lbs.  8)
173 after a good bukakke.
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #89 on: May 23, 2007, 09:15:45 AM »
About your wii?  Or are you just reminding me you're a nihilist?

About my view of ultimate good.