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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2007, 07:51:31 AM »
Truth is a matter of your own will?  I'm still not even clear on your definition, but it seems to far different than mine that there's no way to argue it.  It would be like arguing over the one true pronunciation of the word "read."  It's pointless.

It's actaully very simple: if there's no objective truth, truth is a matter of your own will and nothing more.

Which I completely disagree with.  If I disagree with a philosophy, I tend to think I just don't understand it yet; hence why I ask people to define their terms before I argue with them.
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2007, 08:23:45 AM »
Truth is a matter of your own will?  I'm still not even clear on your definition, but it seems to far different than mine that there's no way to argue it.  It would be like arguing over the one true pronunciation of the word "read."  It's pointless.

It's actaully very simple: if there's no objective truth, truth is a matter of your own will and nothing more.

Untill you get hit in the head with a meteorite, then objective reality takes over.  ;D

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2007, 12:03:41 PM »


Truth is a matter of your own will?  I'm still not even clear on your definition, but it seems to far different than mine that there's no way to argue it.  It would be like arguing over the one true pronunciation of the word "read."  It's pointless.

It's actaully very simple: if there's no objective truth, truth is a matter of your own will and nothing more.

Which I completely disagree with.  If I disagree with a philosophy, I tend to think I just don't understand it yet; hence why I ask people to define their terms before I argue with them.

Imagine that there is some objective reality (for this is, I believe where
most people stand).

What effect does it have on you? Doesn't it only somehow impact
your own perceptions? So, those perceptions are, to the observer,
the only actuality. Anything else is merely a model for explanation.

Now, if you can impose your will on these perceptions, essentially you
are changing the very nature of truth.

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2007, 08:00:13 PM »
no he is regaining his footing and confidence.
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2007, 08:06:51 PM »
Never lost it.

Well, I did last night, but not while posting.

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2007, 08:08:48 PM »
Never lost it.

Well, I did last night, but not while posting.
so we can expect that humility is just an act?
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2007, 08:11:13 PM »
Never lost it.

Well, I did last night, but not while posting.
so we can expect that humility is just an act?

WHEN have I ever been humble?

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2007, 08:16:18 PM »
when you are tired.
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2007, 08:53:24 PM »
Hmm...I thought I was just being more careful.
Funny, the two times that I seem able to 'score'
is when I am truly tired or drunk. I KNOW I'm not
humble in the latter case, and I doubt that I am
in the former either, but it's possible I come across
that way.

It's tough to be humble when the world is owed
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2007, 09:41:35 PM »
You're humble in the hemrhoidail ass sense.  ;)

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2007, 09:47:58 PM »
You're humble in the hemrhoidail ass sense.  ;)
i bet they can be humbling
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2007, 10:31:12 PM »
Very much so..

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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2007, 10:56:21 PM »
Misunderstood.

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Re: Truth=relative?
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Re: Truth=relative?
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2007, 05:41:20 AM »
I'm healing them. Still can't seem to get the
hang of healing my wisdom teeth though.