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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8505 on: November 24, 2018, 09:11:28 PM »
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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8506 on: November 24, 2018, 10:28:19 PM »
Hey, I thought we would never see you again!

Welcome back. :)

I'm still trying to find my way around again.

Now here's a blast from the past!

You joined here originally in '06 or '07 then deleted your first account and came back a few months latter.

I was posting as Scrapheap then.

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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8507 on: November 25, 2018, 02:00:08 AM »
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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8508 on: November 26, 2018, 06:20:19 PM »
Guest   07:13:23 PM Nothing, or nothing you can see...

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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8509 on: December 01, 2018, 11:09:59 AM »
Guest   12:07:19 PM Registering for an account on the forum.

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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8510 on: December 01, 2018, 04:54:17 PM »
Guest   07:13:23 PM Nothing, or nothing you can see...

This is sort of interesting. I wonder what the bot found.
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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8511 on: December 01, 2018, 05:01:35 PM »
Guest   07:13:23 PM Nothing, or nothing you can see...

This is sort of interesting. I wonder what the bot found.
Have been noticing them for years; can't recall a good explanation. Assuming bots shouldn't be able to access something I can't see. Thinking it was once explained bots can see links I can't see, but this status implies they're also accessing them.

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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8512 on: December 01, 2018, 05:38:09 PM »
Guest   07:13:23 PM Nothing, or nothing you can see...

This is sort of interesting. I wonder what the bot found.
Have been noticing them for years; can't recall a good explanation. Assuming bots shouldn't be able to access something I can't see. Thinking it was once explained bots can see links I can't see, but this status implies they're also accessing them.

What they're trying to access is not listed, usually. This would be the case for any links that aren't visible, but also for any DB actions that aren't mapped. Look at a URL carefully when searching for something. You'll notice a question mark followed by a string that might be as simple as 'x=y' but sometimes a lot more complex. This is the query part of the URL, where you're trying to pose a question to whatever it is that responds to you on the server.

Those questions are all mapped. If you check someone's profile, for example, there will be a query string to that effect, and the online activity lookup (that is in itself a query) will list any actions taken by the profile (basically an IP and a user ID) registered to any mapped activity, such as checking someone's profile. If the activity isn't listed, a standard response will say something to that effect.

I don't know if *any* random query would trigger that kind of response. Probably not; it would cause all kinds of bad things. It's one of the ways you might construct a DoS attack on a server, so I assume the SMF programmers know better.

But essentially, this is what you see. It's really just a listing of known activities mapped to IPs (of which some are known).
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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8513 on: December 01, 2018, 06:12:34 PM »
Thinking this has been proposed before and it doesn't make sense because the forum does display a status of unknown action. Semicolon once figured out viewing karma stats triggers and unknown action status, so I guess all these years I've been hoping you'll tell me exactly what the bots are doing to trigger a status of nothing I can see. It might make more sense if it happened to you too. Can't recall this ever happening at the same time you were online. Have you ever seen a bot doing something you can't see?
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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8514 on: December 01, 2018, 08:23:02 PM »
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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8515 on: December 01, 2018, 08:37:00 PM »
Thank you all, I'm glad to be back.    Walks to the fridge to get a beer.

So why were you perving on eclair's profile earlier??    :zoinks:

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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8516 on: December 02, 2018, 02:49:17 AM »
Thinking this has been proposed before and it doesn't make sense because the forum does display a status of unknown action. Semicolon once figured out viewing karma stats triggers and unknown action status, so I guess all these years I've been hoping you'll tell me exactly what the bots are doing to trigger a status of nothing I can see. It might make more sense if it happened to you too. Can't recall this ever happening at the same time you were online. Have you ever seen a bot doing something you can't see?

Yes. You're right, though - the list of actions you can see also depends on the user permissions.
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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8517 on: December 02, 2018, 08:12:17 AM »
Thinking this has been proposed before and it doesn't make sense because the forum does display a status of unknown action. Semicolon once figured out viewing karma stats triggers and unknown action status, so I guess all these years I've been hoping you'll tell me exactly what the bots are doing to trigger a status of nothing I can see. It might make more sense if it happened to you too. Can't recall this ever happening at the same time you were online. Have you ever seen a bot doing something you can't see?

Yes. You're right, though - the list of actions you can see also depends on the user permissions.
Fair enough then, since you see it too. Though if I had your access, I'd definitely be digging in the database to find out what they're doing that I can't see. :laugh:

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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8518 on: December 03, 2018, 04:16:14 PM »
Thank you all, I'm glad to be back.    Walks to the fridge to get a beer.

So why were you perving on eclair's profile earlier??    :zoinks:
I was looking at several aspire profiles, those who I used to chat with, to see when they were last active. It seems I2 has slowed down a bit in the last few years. Was there a rebellion or something?
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Re: caught snooping
« Reply #8519 on: December 03, 2018, 05:04:08 PM »
Thank you all, I'm glad to be back.    Walks to the fridge to get a beer.

So why were you perving on eclair's profile earlier??    :zoinks:
I was looking at several aspire profiles, those who I used to chat with, to see when they were last active. It seems I2 has slowed down a bit in the last few years. Was there a rebellion or something?

You could say that.

Odeot odeon has become a despot as of late and has been moderating the site to suit his whims at the moment, whatever they may be. This has pissed off several long timers including McJagger and possibly Dunc. This site USED to be about democratic values, the membership decides what they want it to be, now it's just odeot's playground.

Also, odeot and Al (Sir_Les) have been bickering all over the site for the last 2 years, almost non-stop. I'm not sure if this has caused anyone to leave but it's probably turning off any new potential members.