Statutory rape and gender equality

[McGiver]

no, i just know i was on a certain level more mature than my friends, but i'm still not completely ready for sex and i'm 24. as in, i didn't like doing all the stupid things teenagers do, i thought it was childish, but when it came to dating i was nowhere near ready for that or sex or even kissing. i'm an aspie though so it's not typical of all girls to be like that but girls still mature sexually slower than boys imo.

i was horny at an early age too but not ready for sex. that's not what i mean.

you aren't ready for pleasure?

it would be mature, at least to use a condom, and responsible to use another form of birth control.



do you think that sex is meant for procreation only?

[McGiver]

I personally wouldn't call myself a feminist, mainly because I don't like what feminism has come to stand for and the way feminist doctrine is used to tell people how to think and act.  Gender equality is one thing, wanting special treatment to make up for the 'disadvantages' you believe you have in life is quite another.

Perhaps "feminist" was the wrong word to use. You are right in a way because the term "feminist" portrays the "femme" or woman as central, whereas gender equality should not portray either as central. Someone needs to come up with a new term that encompasses gender equality.

In the past, I always assumed that feminism was gender equality and it covered all the events leading to the emancipation of women. Perhaps it was? Now it has become more clear to me that since emancipation, some people have applied it to all forms of women's "rights", some of which are unfair and unnecessary.  

we call ours, pyraxis.

[RobertN]

i'll give you an example. many boys are ready for sex at a younger age while staying stupid way longer. everyone knows boys that are mentally and emotionally mature before they turn 20 are rare jewels.

I don't really agree with that. Boys may think they are ready for sex as soon as they have entered puberty, but the reality is very different. I've never "done it", but I would imagine that sex is a profoundly emotional experience as well as a physical one, so therefore the person should be emotionally mature before engaging in it.

[purposefulinsanity]

I personally wouldn't call myself a feminist, mainly because I don't like what feminism has come to stand for and the way feminist doctrine is used to tell people how to think and act.  Gender equality is one thing, wanting special treatment to make up for the 'disadvantages' you believe you have in life is quite another.

Perhaps "feminist" was the wrong word to use. You are right in a way because the term "feminist" portrays the "femme" or woman as central, whereas gender equality should not portray either as central. Someone needs to come up with a new term that encompasses gender equality.

In the past, I always assumed that feminism was gender equality and it covered all the events leading to the emancipation of women. Perhaps it was? Now it has become more clear to me that since emancipation, some people have applied it to all forms of women's "rights", some of which are unfair and unnecessary. 

I think first wave feminism was about gender equality, but somewhere its gotten distorted and seems to be about treating women differently because they need help 'levelling the playing field'.  What really bothers me about it is that its often used as a stick to bash other women with for making different choices- for example if a woman admits to liking porn, its because she's been conditioned into it by a male dominated society.

[SovaNu]

a new term for gender equality... hmm, how about... gender equality

no i don't think it's only for procreation jagger. i think god wanted us to have a good time which is why we have g spots.

[McGiver]

a new term for gender equality... hmm, how about... gender equality

no i don't think it's only for procreation jagger. i think god wanted us to have a good time which is why we have g spots.

do you masturbate?

[SovaNu]

who doesn't? that's not the same as sex.

[McGiver]

who doesn't? that's not the same as sex.

i equate both with pleasure.

[RobertN]

Also there is the issue of women wanting to stay at home and raise kids. These women are often shunned by feminists as being "docile" and "submissive". I think that child-rearing has become the most under-rated profession and women who selflessly choose to bring new life into the world and raise them themselves (rather than packing them off to a commercialised childcare centre) deserve so much more recognition by society than they receive at present. Unlike going to the office, it is a 24/7 job.

My mother stayed at home to raise me for the first 10 years of my life. It was the best thing she ever did, and I am thankful that I have turned into a well-balanced youth rather than a love-starved chav who is pretty much left to grow up on his own because his parents are too busy to look after him.

[purposefulinsanity]

Yes that's another example of 'feminism' being used to bash other women for their choices.

When I was at school I was told quite seriously by a 'friend' that I shouldn't have chosen to study home economics and textiles because 'we woman have a responsibility now, we should pick the subjects that women couldn't do to prove that we can do them just as well.'

And having made the decision to stay at home and raise my kids I've had plenty of other women ask me when I was going back to work (even when my first baby was only a few months old) and seem shocked that I would want to stay at home with them full time.  People seem to look down on woman who choose to raise their own kids nowadays.

[McGiver]

Also there is the issue of women wanting to stay at home and raise kids. These women are often shunned by feminists as being "docile" and "submissive". I think that child-rearing has become the most under-rated profession and women who selflessly choose to bring new life into the world and raise them themselves (rather than packing them off to a commercialised childcare centre) deserve so much more recognition by society than they receive at present. Unlike going to the office, it is a 24/7 job.

My mother stayed at home to raise me for the first 10 years of my life. It was the best thing she ever did, and I am thankful that I have turned into a well-balanced youth rather than a love-starved chav who is pretty much left to grow up on his own because his parents are too busy to look after him.

they are actually choosing life's most important job.

they get to shape the minds of the next generation....hopefully they will give them the ability to reason and use common sense.

[SovaNu]

boys and girls both took both home ech and shop in my school. i hated both. it was either knitting - which i sucked at, and the wool felt awful against my skin and the teacher was a total bitch who hated me, little did she know i sucked even more than she thought, mom did most of my homework - or facing the circle saw, our teacher told us horror stories of kids who lost their fingers to that thing.

[purposefulinsanity]

We took both till we had to choose our GCSE subjects at 14.

[Calandale]

who doesn't? that's not the same as sex.

I'm not convinced that there is that large a difference.
I mean, it all rather depends upon one's view of sex.
For sex without emotion, something that I find distasteful,
I find it difficult to particularly distinguish, outside of whatever
is gained by pleasing the other - something which is almost
totally lacking from encounters without other hopes, for me.

[SovaNu]

there's a big difference for me.