Unemployed bums

[McGiver]

This doesn't apply to everybody that has contributed here, but for God's sake people, get some compassion - surely its not that difficult?

"methinks" makes some very interesting points about it being easy to despise the poor/weak in society. After all, they are an easy target. All one would have to do is to remove their benefit check, and within a few days they would starve. This is the reality for most people on benefits and I don't think many people would choose to be in that situation if they could avoid it. Many people who appear to be "having a free ride" are mentally ill and can't really make rational decisions regarding their lives, let alone hold down a full time job.

When a society is in difficulty, it always attacks its weakest elements first. All extremist regimes have done this in the past. As well as being morally and ethically wrong, it is also impractical, since the so-called "scroungers" are not really such a big drain on the economy as many other things. In fact it could be argued that if the UK didn't have to fork out billions on Incapacity Benefit, the NHS, Social Services, etc, then it would have had far more money to spend killing innocent people in Iraq! So in that sense, the UK "scroungers" have done the 3rd world a lot of good indirectly. Hey, if we had double the number of benefit-dependents in the UK, perhaps Blair would not have had any money to go to war - now that would have saved an awful lot of deaths and current problems the UK is facing. Strange way of looking at things, I know, but an interesting new perspective on the situtation...

Yes, people attack the poor/weak because they are visible. The real challenge is to look beyond the visible, and research deeper into the woes of your country. If one does that, they will uncover a few uncomfortable truths: it is in fact the elite and even the middle-classes that cause the problems. They drain all the resources and then legitimise it under the umbrella of "capitalism". Its incredible that the elite can earn billions by speculating on the stock market - an activity that doesn't actually produce anything for the country, only milks off the capitalist system. They would do less damage to the world by sitting at home watching daytime TV!

is this an apology?

[The_P]

i wouldnt worry about it peaguy. what good is complaining about someone elses problems on the internet? how does that help them?

I'm not overly worried, but I don't like it when people over-generalise the unemployed. And anyway, this is a topic about putting down the unemployed, so I'm merely taking part in it.

Get over yourself, Hale_Bopp.

Read the whole thread before sticking a carrot up your arse, you fucking dumbarse.

I did, and I am basing my argument on older threads where you have previously sniped at autistic people (especially males) who aren't viable in your eyes because they don't work. You act like you're better than other people with your current job and social life simply because deep-down you're insecure and still in denial that you have autism.

Also, it would help if you would have elaborated more on your introductory post without giving off the impression that you're a stuck-up, close-minded workaholic.

[Scrapheap]

I did, and I am basing my argument on older threads where you have previously sniped at autistic people (especially males) who aren't viable in your eyes because they don't work. You act like you're better than other people with your current job and social life simply because deep-down you're insecure and still in denial that you have autism.

Also, it would help if you would have elaborated more on your introductory post without giving off the impression that you're a stuck-up, close-minded workaholic.

  QFT

[Mr Smith]

i wouldnt worry about it peaguy. what good is complaining about someone elses problems on the internet? how does that help them?

I'm not overly worried, but I don't like it when people over-generalise the unemployed. And anyway, this is a topic about putting down the unemployed, so I'm merely taking part in it.

Get over yourself, Hale_Bopp.

Read the whole thread before sticking a carrot up your arse, you fucking dumbarse.

I did, and I am basing my argument on older threads where you have previously sniped at autistic people (especially males) who aren't viable in your eyes because they don't work. You act like you're better than other people with your current job and social life simply because deep-down you're insecure and still in denial that you have autism.

Also, it would help if you would have elaborated more on your introductory post without giving off the impression that you're a stuck-up, close-minded workaholic.

Neat. Now you're using old threads and comments to base your argument in here, despite the fact I clearly stated in here that people on a sickness benefit don't count. I don't have a social life, either. Get with it.

[methinks]

If assistance is to be given:

Should a recipient of assistance define the nature of the assistance?

Should assistance be given conditionally?

[Calandale]

If assistance is to be given:

Should a recipient of assistance define the nature of the assistance?

Should assistance be given conditionally?

To each, according to his desires? I like it.

[Litigious]

If assistance is to be given:

Should a recipient of assistance define the nature of the assistance?

Should assistance be given conditionally?

To each, according to his desires? I like it.

The social democrats have as their welfare motto: "From each, according to his capacities, to each according, to his needs." But they're no longer in charge. And they're no longer social democrats for that matter either.

[paradox]

If assistance is to be given:

Should a recipient of assistance define the nature of the assistance?

Should assistance be given conditionally?

To each, according to his desires? I like it.

The social democrats have as their welfare motto: "From each, according to his capacities, to each according, to his needs." But they're no longer in charge. And they're no longer social democrats for that matter either.

its sad there no longer in charge, i would love to live in a place that had that moto.

[Calandale]

I wouldn't. I'm too lazy.

[Pyraxis]

What is it with lazy people bragging about their laziness?

[Calandale]

What is it with lazy people bragging about their laziness?

It, like pride and lust, is a virtue.

[RobertN]

I think I might just move to Sweden! Its nice to see elements of socialism still alive in some countries of the world!

[McGiver]

What is it with lazy people bragging about their laziness?

no shit.

they sure work hard telling others that they are not hard workers.

[Calandale]

It's funny though. I work hard,
under the right circumstances.
My dad is convinced that I'm
one of the hardest working
people he's known - but I was
doing it for him. For me, I can't
care.

[McGiver]

all show and no substance.....an actor?

or do you simply lie to yourself?