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This doesn't apply to everybody that has contributed here, but for God's sake people, get some compassion - surely its not that difficult?"methinks" makes some very interesting points about it being easy to despise the poor/weak in society. After all, they are an easy target. All one would have to do is to remove their benefit check, and within a few days they would starve. This is the reality for most people on benefits and I don't think many people would choose to be in that situation if they could avoid it. Many people who appear to be "having a free ride" are mentally ill and can't really make rational decisions regarding their lives, let alone hold down a full time job.When a society is in difficulty, it always attacks its weakest elements first. All extremist regimes have done this in the past. As well as being morally and ethically wrong, it is also impractical, since the so-called "scroungers" are not really such a big drain on the economy as many other things. In fact it could be argued that if the UK didn't have to fork out billions on Incapacity Benefit, the NHS, Social Services, etc, then it would have had far more money to spend killing innocent people in Iraq! So in that sense, the UK "scroungers" have done the 3rd world a lot of good indirectly. Hey, if we had double the number of benefit-dependents in the UK, perhaps Blair would not have had any money to go to war - now that would have saved an awful lot of deaths and current problems the UK is facing. Strange way of looking at things, I know, but an interesting new perspective on the situtation...Yes, people attack the poor/weak because they are visible. The real challenge is to look beyond the visible, and research deeper into the woes of your country. If one does that, they will uncover a few uncomfortable truths: it is in fact the elite and even the middle-classes that cause the problems. They drain all the resources and then legitimise it under the umbrella of "capitalism". Its incredible that the elite can earn billions by speculating on the stock market - an activity that doesn't actually produce anything for the country, only milks off the capitalist system. They would do less damage to the world by sitting at home watching daytime TV!
Quote from: Islam's Comedy Flamer on May 08, 2007, 10:29:07 AMQuote from: richard on May 08, 2007, 10:23:23 AMi wouldnt worry about it peaguy. what good is complaining about someone elses problems on the internet? how does that help them?I'm not overly worried, but I don't like it when people over-generalise the unemployed. And anyway, this is a topic about putting down the unemployed, so I'm merely taking part in it.Get over yourself, Hale_Bopp.Read the whole thread before sticking a carrot up your arse, you fucking dumbarse.
Quote from: richard on May 08, 2007, 10:23:23 AMi wouldnt worry about it peaguy. what good is complaining about someone elses problems on the internet? how does that help them?I'm not overly worried, but I don't like it when people over-generalise the unemployed. And anyway, this is a topic about putting down the unemployed, so I'm merely taking part in it.Get over yourself, Hale_Bopp.
i wouldnt worry about it peaguy. what good is complaining about someone elses problems on the internet? how does that help them?
I did, and I am basing my argument on older threads where you have previously sniped at autistic people (especially males) who aren't viable in your eyes because they don't work. You act like you're better than other people with your current job and social life simply because deep-down you're insecure and still in denial that you have autism.Also, it would help if you would have elaborated more on your introductory post without giving off the impression that you're a stuck-up, close-minded workaholic.
Quote from: fatty mcblob on May 08, 2007, 05:08:49 PMQuote from: Islam's Comedy Flamer on May 08, 2007, 10:29:07 AMQuote from: richard on May 08, 2007, 10:23:23 AMi wouldnt worry about it peaguy. what good is complaining about someone elses problems on the internet? how does that help them?I'm not overly worried, but I don't like it when people over-generalise the unemployed. And anyway, this is a topic about putting down the unemployed, so I'm merely taking part in it.Get over yourself, Hale_Bopp.Read the whole thread before sticking a carrot up your arse, you fucking dumbarse.I did, and I am basing my argument on older threads where you have previously sniped at autistic people (especially males) who aren't viable in your eyes because they don't work. You act like you're better than other people with your current job and social life simply because deep-down you're insecure and still in denial that you have autism.Also, it would help if you would have elaborated more on your introductory post without giving off the impression that you're a stuck-up, close-minded workaholic.
If assistance is to be given:Should a recipient of assistance define the nature of the assistance?Should assistance be given conditionally?
Quote from: methinks on May 09, 2007, 08:04:36 PMIf assistance is to be given:Should a recipient of assistance define the nature of the assistance?Should assistance be given conditionally?To each, according to his desires? I like it.
Quote from: calandale on May 09, 2007, 08:05:39 PMQuote from: methinks on May 09, 2007, 08:04:36 PMIf assistance is to be given:Should a recipient of assistance define the nature of the assistance?Should assistance be given conditionally?To each, according to his desires? I like it.The social democrats have as their welfare motto: "From each, according to his capacities, to each according, to his needs." But they're no longer in charge. And they're no longer social democrats for that matter either.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.
What is it with lazy people bragging about their laziness?
