Don't provoke the little people, especially if they're a cheeky little English girl whose pissed off about ice cream being £9
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Quote from: Eclair on May 06, 2007, 11:58:07 PMQuote from: calandale on May 06, 2007, 11:50:03 PMQuote from: Eclair on May 06, 2007, 11:40:57 PMI would actually go so far as to say ALL my relationships have failed because I suck at manipulating.Is that both with hands and mouth, or just hands?Seriously, I can't imagine why. I would think that most guys HATE being manipulated. Maybe I'm wrong, but even NAS's seem to have a real gripe about this kind of stuff.Hands and mouth of course...I didn't say I sucked at sucking!You've read my post on WP about love...that pretty much explains it all. I also think a lot of men have been damaged by women who do manipulate and sort of go into paranoia about it. Men do go a bit haywire when you don't get jealous, aren't interested in their money trinkets and don't use sex as a bargaining tool. Just to name a few examples.You're right. I've screwed up many of my relationships because, based on experience, I've mistrusted them when they didn't want to take advantage of me.
Quote from: calandale on May 06, 2007, 11:50:03 PMQuote from: Eclair on May 06, 2007, 11:40:57 PMI would actually go so far as to say ALL my relationships have failed because I suck at manipulating.Is that both with hands and mouth, or just hands?Seriously, I can't imagine why. I would think that most guys HATE being manipulated. Maybe I'm wrong, but even NAS's seem to have a real gripe about this kind of stuff.Hands and mouth of course...I didn't say I sucked at sucking!You've read my post on WP about love...that pretty much explains it all. I also think a lot of men have been damaged by women who do manipulate and sort of go into paranoia about it. Men do go a bit haywire when you don't get jealous, aren't interested in their money trinkets and don't use sex as a bargaining tool. Just to name a few examples.
Quote from: Eclair on May 06, 2007, 11:40:57 PMI would actually go so far as to say ALL my relationships have failed because I suck at manipulating.Is that both with hands and mouth, or just hands?Seriously, I can't imagine why. I would think that most guys HATE being manipulated. Maybe I'm wrong, but even NAS's seem to have a real gripe about this kind of stuff.
I would actually go so far as to say ALL my relationships have failed because I suck at manipulating.
Just ask?
Quote from: calandale on May 07, 2007, 11:26:38 PMJust ask?That's shit advice!
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.
Quote from: calandale on May 07, 2007, 11:26:38 PMJust ask?That's shit advice!Unfortunately, there is no way to tell if someone is being manipulative sometimes...only time can show someone's true colours. Although you can learn to filter out some of the assholes.
And the really honest ones will answer something like, "You know me, the spawn of satan," and then if they care about you, keep taking apparently contradictory actions that show concern for you?
Quote from: Litigious on May 07, 2007, 02:11:52 AMQuote from: Eclair on May 06, 2007, 11:58:07 PMQuote from: calandale on May 06, 2007, 11:50:03 PMQuote from: Eclair on May 06, 2007, 11:40:57 PMI would actually go so far as to say ALL my relationships have failed because I suck at manipulating.Is that both with hands and mouth, or just hands?Seriously, I can't imagine why. I would think that most guys HATE being manipulated. Maybe I'm wrong, but even NAS's seem to have a real gripe about this kind of stuff.Hands and mouth of course...I didn't say I sucked at sucking!You've read my post on WP about love...that pretty much explains it all. I also think a lot of men have been damaged by women who do manipulate and sort of go into paranoia about it. Men do go a bit haywire when you don't get jealous, aren't interested in their money trinkets and don't use sex as a bargaining tool. Just to name a few examples.You're right. I've screwed up many of my relationships because, based on experience, I've mistrusted them when they didn't want to take advantage of me.How are we suppose to tell if men are manipulative bastard, or really interested and nice. Its really frustrating for me because I can tell in females but there not in men.