The criminal parts of the Koran

[Peter]

Actually, I believe the Bible is protected by the same laws in Denmark that protect the Koran, namely, freedom of speech. The inequality that exists between Christianity and the other religions in Denmark does not give the Bible special status other than the fact that the state finances its publishing and the religion behind it.

The point here, Peter, is that the State of Denmark does not prohibit Islam. There are groups that, using various methods, try to do just that, however, but the applicable laws really are quite clear on this.

Islamophobics are everywhere, but thankfully, there is freedom of religion.

Freedom of religion and freedom of speech isn't an absolute.  In the UK, I couldn't for instance start the Church of Peter and preach that the English are all evil servants of Satan who should be slaughtered while remaining within the bounds of UK law, since that would fall under hate speech and incitement to violence legislation.  It's the same thing when muslims preach that the infidels deserve death; their religion doesn't protect them from prosecution for hate crimes and incitement to violence, and I remember at least one cleric who was deported on those grounds, and I suspect the situation is similar in Denmark.

[odeon]

Yes, it is about the same in Denmark, and Sweden, and lots of other places. And that's really the point: you can't do everything the bible tells you to if you want to follow the laws in most countries.

But again: The State of Denmark does not prohibit Islam. There are  enough Islamophobics trying to do that but Denmark isn't there yet.

[Litigious]

Actually, I believe the Bible is protected by the same laws in Denmark that protect the Koran, namely, freedom of speech. The inequality that exists between Christianity and the other religions in Denmark does not give the Bible special status other than the fact that the state finances its publishing and the religion behind it.

The point here, Peter, is that the State of Denmark does not prohibit Islam. There are groups that, using various methods, try to do just that, however, but the applicable laws really are quite clear on this.

Islamophobics are everywhere, but thankfully, there is freedom of religion.

Freedom of religion and freedom of speech isn't an absolute.  In the UK, I couldn't for instance start the Church of Peter and preach that the English are all evil servants of Satan who should be slaughtered while remaining within the bounds of UK law, since that would fall under hate speech and incitement to violence legislation.  It's the same thing when muslims preach that the infidels deserve death; their religion doesn't protect them from prosecution for hate crimes and incitement to violence, and I remember at least one cleric who was deported on those grounds, and I suspect the situation is similar in Denmark.

Sweden is actually so sick that I could say publically that all Swedes deserve to die; death threats to Swedes as a group isn't a hate crime in this country!!! If I said the same about Muslims, gays, etc, I'd most likely go to jail for it. 

[odeon]

Very, very few people "deserve" to die.

[Calandale]

Very, very few people "deserve" to die.

Sucks then that we all do. Frankly, it seems such a part of humanity that
I would say it is one of our defining factors.

[Tom/Mutate]

I think its worth pointing out that the bible changes tone halfway through - Jesus turns up and is like " hey, forget that violent stuff, its peace and love now!"  And the second half has a less bloodthirsty emphasis.  Not sure sure if the Koran does.

[Peter]

I think its worth pointing out that the bible changes tone halfway through - Jesus turns up and is like " hey, forget that violent stuff, its peace and love now!"  And the second half has a less bloodthirsty emphasis.  Not sure sure if the Koran does.

I think the Koran is more along the lines of "Hey, you know all that violent stuff?  Well, here's a new list of people to be violent towards!  I particularly recommend stoning people; it always gives me a stiffy.".

[Tom/Mutate]

makes me wonder if the danes are allowed to study Mein Kampf in history, I assume they don't have RE if holy books are out

[Calandale]

wow. this so sounds like a discussion on a completetly unreltated board.

And yes, I'm drunk off my fucking ass.

[Scrapheap]

Very, very few people "deserve" to die.

Most NPD's I've met deserve to die. 

[Calandale]

National Police Department?

[Scrapheap]

No Pussy getting Dicks.

[Thagomizer]

I just came across this: http://siad.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/the-criminal-parts-of-the-koran/

Well, I'm glad that some countries are finally realizing that Islam is a political movement rather than a religious one.

[odeon]

As with most religions, it is both. Consider how an average American presidential candidate goes about to win votes in the Bible Belt.

[McGiver]

As with most religions, it is both. Consider how an average American presidential candidate goes about to win votes in the Bible Belt.

what do they do?
go balls deep?