Another US shooting..

[McGiver]

I'd love a taser. 

they aren't meant to be sex toys.
or, are they?

[Calandale]

Dangerous ones.

[Scrapheap]

ah, sorry. only just read it, thought it was breaking news, but i see it's not now.

gun laws, hmm. funny how there's not many incidents like this in countries where guns are banned.

although london is getting pretty bad lately I suppose.

And how is it that you have gun violence in a country where guns are banned ??

[Litigious]

ah, sorry. only just read it, thought it was breaking news, but i see it's not now.

gun laws, hmm. funny how there's not many incidents like this in countries where guns are banned.

although london is getting pretty bad lately I suppose.

And how is it that you have gun violence in a country where guns are banned ??

 

[odeon]

i would just like to go to a  fucking message board where nobody gives a crap about news headlines for once

Why wait? Send us a postcard when you're there.

[odeon]

There are almost 300 million Americans. There are about as many guns there as people. Considering that, these shootings are pretty rare, even if it's a tragedy every time it happens.

Normally, this would be the reply where I proved you wrong by quoting some relevant statistics. However, I can't be arsed, we've had this discussion before, and besides, "pretty rare" s such a vague phrase that you didn't actually say anything that needs to be proven wrong.

[richard]

i would just like to go to a  fucking message board where nobody gives a crap about news headlines for once

Why wait? Send us a postcard when you're there.

oh funny! i bought them from you

[Calandale]

Richard's rapier-like wit strikes home again.

[In The spaGhetto]

And how is it that you have gun violence in a country where guns are banned ??

for the same reason that you can have a drug problem in countries where drugs are banned

[Scrapheap]

And how is it that you have gun violence in a country where guns are banned ??

for the same reason that you can have a drug problem in countries where drugs are banned

BINGO !!!

[Litigious]

And how is it that you have gun violence in a country where guns are banned ??

for the same reason that you can have a drug problem in countries where drugs are banned

BINGO !!!

It's only myself and about 10 other Europeans that have understood why it should be a right to carry arms and not a privilege. The others have swallowed the anti-gun propaganda, lock, stock and barrel.

[odeon]

And how is it that you have gun violence in a country where guns are banned ??

for the same reason that you can have a drug problem in countries where drugs are banned

BINGO !!!

It's only myself and about 10 other Europeans that have understood why it should be a right to carry arms and not a privilege. The others have swallowed the anti-gun propaganda, lock, stock and barrel.

You and only ten other Europeans? I guess now we know why the votes are so often against you.

[In The spaGhetto]

I can see the theoretical argument that  legalising guns might mean more control over firearms than criminalising it, thus driving it underground.

It's one valid argument but in practice I think it's outweighed by the dangers of legalising firearms. to go back to the drugs analogy, alcohol is legal here and causes more problems than any other drug. If you could buy a hit of heroin at your corner store i'm pretty sure there'd be a bigger hard drugs problem, even if it would be safer to get hold of for those determined to do it.

However i'm more in favour of legalising some drugs than guns. Cannabis for instance i think should be legalised (but that's just me being selfish)
You mainly harm yourself with misusing hard drugs, but misusing guns that's not the case.

Another point is that if you completely ban guns and a cop catches someone with some then there is no debate about whether he should maybe let them keep it, a decision he might regret later. Total banning means there's not question.  There is some gun crime in UK but proportionally it is still a pretty small problem I think(don't have any actual stats for that but that's my impression)

Anyway we don't need to look at theory - there are some pretty big experiments testing the theory and from recent results it's looking increasingly like legalising is a bad idea. 

[In The spaGhetto]

also is it me or does the perpetrator of the shootings look suspiciously like this guy?

[Calandale]

It's only myself and about 10 other Europeans that have understood why it should be a right to carry arms and not a privilege. The others have swallowed the anti-gun propaganda, lock, stock and barrel.

Seems there's an easy solution then.