Perfection vs good

[The_P]

The philosopher Schopenhauer is very interesting on existence

He says how can people possibly think life is meant to make them happy?

We are here to mate and die and that's it

How can people possibly think that life about procreating and death when there are so many people who don't want children? I win.

I own the philosopher single-handedly. You people are easily swayed by famous people (omg, if they have lengthy beards and bad bo, they must be wise) -- you disgust me.

[esme456]

I'm not swayed because he's famous, but because what he says makes perfect sense

In the case of philosophy, the better stuff does tend to rise to the top

He's not the equivalent of the Beckhams of the Philosophy world lol

Far from it - he was a complete misanthropist

But, when a marching band went by he would always put a chair by the window so his little dog could watch
- I think that's so brilliant 

There need to be sufficient people following the essential 'plan' for the human race to continue, so it is taken as read that having children is the 'default setting'

The people who don't want children are probably a result of an inbuilt genetic self-limiting thing to stop resources getting too scarce (but obviously this isn't always effective)

But I'd say that by not having children you are living a life far more determined by free will

[McGiver]

It's far easier to scoff than be genuine imo

it is far easier to be genuine than to give someone false hope.

We don't often disagree, but I have found the opposite to be true. It is often more of a challenge to remain honest than to tell someone what they want to hear, especially if you will receive no consequence from your words, as in the people you don't really have to deal with on a daily basis.
Knowing what someone wants to hear is next to impossible, but that doesn't stop most people from abandoning honesty.

to me it is easier to tell them what i honestly think....consequences be damned.
because if i tell them what i think they want to hear then i am not really doing them a service, and i have to remember what i said, since i didn't believe in it myself, this could be a difficult thing to do.

[esme456]

Well I just think there's a greater need for tact when a person is psychologically fragile

[Pyraxis]

You're welcome to think what you want, it's when you start telling other people not to use their own methods that it turns into a fight.

I think it's funny how you and Nomaken got so caught up in debating psych help tactics with each other that you both quit talking to Calandale.

[esme456]

well actually id sent Cal an email and a pm, both of which he didnt appear to want to reply to and he said he
was tired on the thread so assumed he'd gone off the whole topic

[McGiver]

well actually id sent Cal an email and a pm, both of which he didnt appear to want to reply to and he said he
was tired on the thread so assumed he'd gone off the whole topic

i think he took nomaken's advice.

[esme456]

That's horrible!

 

[McGiver]

i would blame you, ya know.

[Pyraxis]

  McJagger, you are evil.

[esme456]

Yes and I'd probably take it on my conscience as well!

[McGiver]

Yes and I'd probably take it on my conscience as well!

ever since the garden of eden the man has found that it is much easier to blame the woman.  and the woman has been more than willing to accept this burden of guilt.

[Pyraxis]

Good point.

[esme456]

 

[McGiver]

esmy, do you think that my last statement is untru?