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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #90 on: June 11, 2008, 02:27:11 PM »
Wrong closet. ::)
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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #91 on: June 14, 2008, 02:13:39 PM »
Wrong closet. ::)

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So which one is the *right* closet to "come out" of eH?
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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #92 on: June 14, 2008, 03:03:23 PM »
The one you're actually in.
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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2008, 07:00:34 PM »
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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #94 on: June 15, 2008, 03:38:46 AM »
Comfy place, then? :zoinks:
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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #95 on: June 18, 2008, 02:44:48 PM »
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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #96 on: October 19, 2008, 08:42:49 AM »
MIGHT I ADD: Homosexuality is Very easy to conceal whereas for many of us, our AS is blatantly Obvious. EVEN when we try to pass for normal.
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I have tried for 31 years to pass for normal/not autistic and I still haven't got it right.

Thats why the Aspie Movement should be modeled on the Black Power movement instead of the attention seeking gay pride movement.
Why do we need a "movement"? How about educating and advocating? Doesn't need to be "in your face".

We need a Movement to form an interest coalition because That is how you get things done! ;)
Without an interest coalition, NTs simply have no incentive to treat us fairly. People are naturally inclined to dislike and mistreat those they see as being different, UNLESS of course there is a social incentive not to do so. THAT is what gays and to some extent what blacks have managed to accomplish and the way they did it was to ORGANIZE into a group.
And that is the Crux of the problem - actually organising into an advocacy group. It's been my experience that aspie forums are very subject to regular misunderstandings and infighting and so it would be very tricky to organise into an effective lobby group.

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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #97 on: October 19, 2008, 09:48:18 AM »
seconded, judging from previous attempts. herding cats = FAIL  :zombiefuck:

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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #98 on: October 19, 2008, 10:38:09 AM »
Thirded. There's no way it can be made to work. Sorry.
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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #99 on: October 19, 2008, 11:18:28 AM »
MIGHT I ADD: Homosexuality is Very easy to conceal whereas for many of us, our AS is blatantly Obvious. EVEN when we try to pass for normal.
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I have tried for 31 years to pass for normal/not autistic and I still haven't got it right.

Thats why the Aspie Movement should be modeled on the Black Power movement instead of the attention seeking gay pride movement.
Why do we need a "movement"? How about educating and advocating? Doesn't need to be "in your face".

We need a Movement to form an interest coalition because That is how you get things done! ;)
Without an interest coalition, NTs simply have no incentive to treat us fairly. People are naturally inclined to dislike and mistreat those they see as being different, UNLESS of course there is a social incentive not to do so. THAT is what gays and to some extent what blacks have managed to accomplish and the way they did it was to ORGANIZE into a group.
And that is the Crux of the problem - actually organising into an advocacy group. It's been my experience that aspie forums are very subject to regular misunderstandings and infighting and so it would be very tricky to organise into an effective lobby group.
An IRL group could be effective. Best of all there are big organisations that exist, the challenge is to turn them into groups actually for people on the spectrum, as opposed a parents group.

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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #100 on: October 19, 2008, 12:55:50 PM »
Has anyone seen a successful political movement get going? What did they have that we don't?
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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #101 on: October 20, 2008, 03:32:40 AM »
Has anyone seen a successful political movement get going? What did they have that we don't?
Committed people who know what they are doing and actually work together.

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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #102 on: October 20, 2008, 05:58:23 AM »
Where does the commitment come from?
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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #103 on: October 20, 2008, 06:29:23 AM »
From being committed? Some people around here need to be committed.  :laugh:

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Re: Aspies For Freedom
« Reply #104 on: October 20, 2008, 11:43:22 AM »
Where does the commitment come from?
Common cause and real conviction. The only conviction people in the Autism rights stuff at present is directed at inflating ones ego, often at expense of each others.