Democrats' foriegn policy follies.

[Scrapheap]

 At first I thought I had read incorrectly.

WASHINGTON - House Democratic leaders intend to propose legislation requiring the withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq by the fall of 2008, and even earlier if the Iraqi government fails to meet security and other goals, Democratic officials said Wednesday night.

Withdraw forces EARLIER if Iraqi's fail to meet goals?? HELLO !!! If Iraqi's are failing to meet security goals it's because we need MORE forces not less. Furthermore they allow for an extention if the goals ARE met. HELLO THE FUCK AGAIN !!! If security goals ARE met, we will need LESS forces and we can leave SOONER.

Many conservative pundits have said that the Demecrats are willing to allow Iraq to disinigrate to embarras the president. I did'nt give those comments much weight untill now. FUCK politics is a dirty buisness.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17510666/

[Callaway]

Pelosi is behind this legislation.  It's going to tie the hands of the military personnel already over there, unfortunately.

[McGiver]

if the iraqis fail to meet security measures....


this is why we should pull out.  why should we have young americans die for the continuing profits (record profits) of the oil companies?

[Nomaken]

why should we have young americans die for the continuing profits (record profits) of the oil companies?

Theoretically because we already made an investment in human lives and if we don't finish what we started(which btw I am of the opinion is impossible at this point) then their sacrifice was in vain.

The only thing I see happening is that Iraq will break up into countries that have a ethnic/religious seperation they will tolerate.  And this will happen before or after we leave, but after they form into stable countries, all of their problems will be blamed on us for the next 50 years.

[McGiver]

we won't get the credit if everything goes right in iraq, but we will get the blame if everything goes wrong.


a great general knows when it is wise to stay and fight, or withdraw.  you cannot win em all.

[Nomaken]

I am fine with the troops coming home, but what is bothering me is that when problems come around in 6 months they are going to be bitching about how the democrats lost the war because they weren't willing to go all the way.  God dammit.

[Scrapheap]

if the iraqis fail to meet security measures....


this is why we should pull out.  why should we have young americans die for the continuing profits (record profits) of the oil companies?

Oil companies will profit iether way. If the Iraqi Gov. falls, Iranian oil wins. Do we want that ?? ?? ??

[Nomaken]

if the iraqis fail to meet security measures....


this is why we should pull out.  why should we have young americans die for the continuing profits (record profits) of the oil companies?

Oil companies will profit iether way. If the Iraqi Gov. falls, Iranian oil wins. Do we want that ?? ?? ??

Not enough to pay for it now.  We are a society that demands instant gratification.  Plus, at this point it may be impossible to keep the government intact.

[Litigious]

we won't get the credit if everything goes right in iraq, but we will get the blame if everything goes wrong.

There are wimpy politicians in Europe that never would risk anything at all themselves but always blame the US when you do something. Swedish politicians are among the worst. I don't know why they should be in any position to judge. They cooperated with Nazi Germany because they feared an invasion. They act cowardly against Russia and against terrorists. They have never done anything brave themselves, but they always throw shit on the US when you do something, no matter if you do it 100% right.

[McGiver]

it is my belief that politicians rarely get anything right.

so i say excercise on the side of caution and don't let the politicians do anything.
leave people alone.

[Litigious]

it is my belief that politicians rarely get anything right.

so i say excercise on the side of caution and don't let the politicians do anything.
leave people alone.

I agree to 100%. But that should have been done a long time ago, before those bastards became so powerful. 

[McGiver]

it is my belief that politicians rarely get anything right.

so i say excercise on the side of caution and don't let the politicians do anything.
leave people alone.

I agree to 100%. But that should have been done a long time ago, before those bastards became so powerful. 

vote the new guy in.

[Scrapheap]

vote the new guy in.

Come meet the new boss...... same as the old boss...

[Litigious]

vote the new guy in.

Come meet the new boss...... same as the old boss...

That's what I think, too, alas. 

[duncvis]

No matter who you vote for, the fucking politicians always seem to get in. Power to the people!