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Re: Sex education
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2007, 02:01:51 PM »
it only becomes awkward when you make a mess in your pants.  :-[
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Re: Sex education
« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2007, 09:36:21 AM »
you can always blame snipping complications :P
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Re: Sex education
« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2007, 02:29:44 PM »
Not only would I call that age appropriate, I call it funny as hell.

I never said it wasn't funny, but I was talking about a five year old.  If you think that's age appropriate I seriously pity any kids you do have in the future.

I think that is age appropriate.  Older would be better simply because they'd probably understand it better, but it wouldnt do any harm.

That's the whole point of it being age appropriate- that they are able to fully understand.  Plus you have to wonder if teaching your kids a stereotype that may or may not be true as the truth is appropriate in the first place.
  You should be careful nom, with your talk of incest fantasies people might think showing a five year old child porn was some kind of grooming.

Unless my kids are slow or have some kind of learning disability, I think they will be able to understand that kind of crap.  They'll probably not understand parts of it, but it doesn't hurt to explain something they don't understand, and let them come into understanding it later, as long as I provide them with things they are definitely not supposed to do or think.  The trick, I believe, is to not overlook something because it is obvious and common sense to me, rather, paying special attention to common sense knowledge.
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Re: Sex education
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2007, 02:33:57 PM »
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Re: Sex education
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2007, 04:15:47 PM »
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Re: Sex education
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2007, 04:42:21 PM »
Do you know I think you might be right  >:D

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Re: Sex education
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2007, 06:12:39 PM »
Not only would I call that age appropriate, I call it funny as hell.

I never said it wasn't funny, but I was talking about a five year old.  If you think that's age appropriate I seriously pity any kids you do have in the future.

I think that is age appropriate.  Older would be better simply because they'd probably understand it better, but it wouldnt do any harm.

That's the whole point of it being age appropriate- that they are able to fully understand.  Plus you have to wonder if teaching your kids a stereotype that may or may not be true as the truth is appropriate in the first place.
  You should be careful nom, with your talk of incest fantasies people might think showing a five year old child porn was some kind of grooming.

Unless my kids are slow or have some kind of learning disability, I think they will be able to understand that kind of crap.  They'll probably not understand parts of it, but it doesn't hurt to explain something they don't understand, and let them come into understanding it later, as long as I provide them with things they are definitely not supposed to do or think.  The trick, I believe, is to not overlook something because it is obvious and common sense to me, rather, paying special attention to common sense knowledge.


This was what Peter originally said and I believe he was just joking.

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"Also, Suzie, vaginas sometimes bleed after sex with a well-hung black man.  This is normal, and actually part of the appeal.  Want to look at some pictures of black men with me?  We can play the 'guess which one would make my vagina bleed' game!"

You said you thought this was both age appropriate for a five year old child and funny as hell.  If you are just kidding around, then I am doing an AS thing by taking you seriously, but if you are actually serious about talking this way to your five year old children, then you would be making a serious mistake that could cost you the custody of your children.

If your children know these sorts of sexual details, then teachers or social workers who work with your children will believe that you are either sexually abusing them or grooming them so that you can.  Once this happens, your children will be taken from you and they will be placed in a foster home if there is not a suitable relative to take care of them.  If you want to get them back, you will undergo extensive psychological testing to prove that you did not and could never molest them and if you don't  jump through every hoop, you will never get your children back.  Even though the legal standard if you are accused of a crime is proof beyond a reasonable doubt, in a child custody case where you are suspected of abusing them, the burden of proof will be on you.

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Re: Sex education
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2007, 06:20:00 PM »
You have the patience of a saint Callaway.  +1

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Re: Sex education
« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2007, 07:54:16 PM »
It would not be the first thing I would say to my children.  They would have to show me a level maturity where they show they have a good grasp on the concepts and an understanding of the weight of the knowledge.  But I think smaller children are far more capable of advanced understanding that virtually everyone will give them credit for.  I would be waiting for the right signs of mental maturity, not age, so if 5 is too young, i'll keep waiting, but I am optimistic in that regard.  In my opinion, the sooner the children start tackling the concepts the sooner they can develop well formulated understanding of them.
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Re: Sex education
« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2007, 06:25:28 AM »
i agree, Nomey. kids are usually assumed to be dumber or less mature than they really are. and sometimes sheltering them too much only causes more damage.
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Re: Sex education
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2007, 06:35:00 AM »
Actually I know my kids are intelligent and I treat them as such.  Its not sheltering your kids not to show them hardcore porn pics at age 5.  I think a lot of people now don't seem to value the importance of letting your kids have a childhood.

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Re: Sex education
« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2007, 06:48:57 AM »
If your children know these sorts of sexual details, then teachers or social workers who work with your children will believe that you are either sexually abusing them or grooming them so that you can.  Once this happens, your children will be taken from you and they will be placed in a foster home if there is not a suitable relative to take care of them.  If you want to get them back, you will undergo extensive psychological testing to prove that you did not and could never molest them and if you don't  jump through every hoop, you will never get your children back.  Even though the legal standard if you are accused of a crime is proof beyond a reasonable doubt, in a child custody case where you are suspected of abusing them, the burden of proof will be on you.

I actually think that he was just making a bad joke, but isn't this a sickness of modern society, that parents so easily can be suspected for abusing their children? That's like witch hunting in the 21th century...

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Re: Sex education
« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2007, 06:55:50 AM »
I think that's because victims of child abuse have a hard time coming forward about it- they can be too scared, or taught that its perfectly normal, made to believe that no-one will believe them or that they will be taken to a worse place if removed from their abuser, etc.  So in order to protect these kids sometimes they have to look for warning signs- I'd say showing a young child porn like that was a pretty good warning sign myself and whether that in it self constitutes child abuse is a matter of opinion.


If it was a bad joke, why would he continue to defend it?

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Re: Sex education
« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2007, 07:46:45 AM »
i agree, Nomey. kids are usually assumed to be dumber or less mature than they really are. and sometimes sheltering them too much only causes more damage.

i am sure that you haven't been following his image cultivating campaign.
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