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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #540 on: August 03, 2020, 04:39:48 AM »
Jack, thanks
You're welcome. How long is that gargantuan signature going to be around?

Until it starts becoming annoying. Are we there yet?
Thinking we were there right out of the gate. :laugh: Though do have the ability to block signatures, so can fix it myself without imposing if the desire is to keep it long term.

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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #541 on: August 03, 2020, 04:41:30 AM »
Reggie, if you're going to troll, then troll.

You switch between nonsensical trolling and nonsensical posts which you expect us to read and take seriously.
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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #542 on: August 03, 2020, 04:42:57 AM »
Jack, thanks
You're welcome. How long is that gargantuan signature going to be around?

Until it starts becoming annoying. Are we there yet?
Thinking we were there right out of the gate. :laugh: Though do have the ability to block signatures, so can fix it myself without imposing if the desire is to keep it long term.

I'm hoping that it was funny for a day or 2.

I'll work on a new one. I'm starting to annoy myself with it.
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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #543 on: August 03, 2020, 04:48:50 AM »
Who else is missunderstood? Hitler? Give me a fucking break. If you support this evil which then I can't respect you. What I said was a valid question: why can't she stay the fuck out of other people's affairs? Her own writing shows she is a frigid bitch. Why should she be the boss of other people's sexual health? You're never going to answer that are you you racist?
Jack is generally accommodating to take most any opposing stance for the sake of civil intelligent debate, and would have certainly taken the stance of condemning Sanger if the provided stance had instead been support. There are people with sensible things to say on both sides of the topic. Unfortunately that's not the case here.

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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #544 on: August 03, 2020, 05:31:37 AM »
From what I understand, Sanger's "eugenics" was simply the sane position that women should be able to make their own reproductive choices. Not just wealthy or privileged women.
Wouldn't try to deny Sanger found some matter of alignment in eugenics due to finding certain people unfit, but those views seem clearly based in economic and intellectual fitness regardless of race. It so happened to be a racist time, and while motives might not have been racist, it doesn't appear racially motivated support for contraception was rejected. Though that sort of thing occurs with many movements, even today. One organization may not reject the support of a more extreme organization which happens to serve their own agenda, even though certain extremes aren't something they promote, engage or support.

Yes, totally agree. Also racist views were mainstream at the time. So if Sanger had refused dialogue or agreement with groups who were openly racist, her audience would have been very small.

Applying 21st century sensitivities to early 20th century issues and movements needs to take those sort of considerations into account.
Thinking it may be taking that into account. Ultimately the first step in legalizing contraception meant providing it to black women first, and that will taint Sanger's legacy forever. Rightly so? Maybe.

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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #545 on: August 03, 2020, 05:59:56 AM »
Yes, rightly so. It's racist as all hell.
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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #546 on: August 03, 2020, 06:01:22 AM »
Planned Parenthood never stopped focusing on black people. How many babies have they aborted, by race, do you know?
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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #548 on: August 03, 2020, 06:36:36 AM »
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the abortion rate among black mothers is more than three times higher than it is for white mothers
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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #549 on: August 03, 2020, 06:59:44 AM »
And the funny thing is that these arguments that keep flooring you all come from the Alex Jones show, yeah that show with 'no factual information' somehow predicted all this years ago
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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #550 on: August 03, 2020, 07:05:56 AM »
Sanger didn't support abortion and proposed legalized contraception was the most practical way to avoid it. It's not possible to know if Sanger would have even been offended by being publicly disassociated from what Planned Parenthood has evolved to. 

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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #551 on: August 03, 2020, 07:14:47 AM »
Planned Parenthood never stopped focusing on black people.
Planned Parenthood never stopped focusing on poor people.

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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #552 on: August 03, 2020, 07:38:19 AM »
Some general advice for future reference.  If you are getting your news and oped from Alex Jones and the WSJ then try not to discuss things too much with other people.  The "heavy lifting" is best left to others.
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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #553 on: August 03, 2020, 09:09:28 AM »
How can you say that I haven't constructed an argument if you admit to not reading my posts? A debate with you would be futile, anyway.

Not watching your videos =/= not reading your posts

And an argument is not the same as posting some random content.
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Re: Everyone is going to die!!!!
« Reply #554 on: August 03, 2020, 09:40:03 AM »
Ah now the WSJ is bad too. I never heard of anyone objecting to it before.  :dunno:
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