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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2019, 04:29:01 PM »
What you mean is that they're socialist craphouses, with people that don't rexpect other people and their property.

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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2019, 06:13:00 PM »
What you mean is that they're socialist craphouses, with people that don't rexpect other people and their property.
I think you're referring to places where a signifiant minority of the population have been ground so far  into the dirt that  they find no purpose in life beyond making life even more miserable for the majority (who just had the  luck to land in the dirt, but have not as yet been ground into it)

As for socialists, most of the socialists that i know actually have property (if owning your own home counts?) , all of them respect other people's property (except insofar as big industry, for example,  is somebody's property).  The main difference is that they  don't  feel smug about their relative good fortune, nor measure a man's worth by his bank balance, so they will  regard a guy who lives in a Council bedsit as their  equal.

Still can't decide if you really are obnoxious , or just enjoy  making obnoxious comments

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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2019, 07:47:37 PM »
What you mean is that they're socialist craphouses, with people that don't rexpect other people and their property.
I think you're referring to places where a signifiant minority of the population have been ground so far  into the dirt that  they find no purpose in life beyond making life even more miserable for the majority (who just had the  luck to land in the dirt, but have not as yet been ground into it)

As for socialists, most of the socialists that i know actually have property (if owning your own home counts?) , all of them respect other people's property (except insofar as big industry, for example,  is somebody's property).  The main difference is that they  don't  feel smug about their relative good fortune, nor measure a man's worth by his bank balance, so they will  regard a guy who lives in a Council bedsit as their  equal.

Still can't decide if you really are obnoxious , or just enjoy  making obnoxious comments


You don't treat me as your equal. You're bitter and resentful.
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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2019, 07:57:52 PM »
What you mean is that they're socialist craphouses, with people that don't rexpect other people and their property.
I think you're referring to places where a signifiant minority of the population have been ground so far  into the dirt that  they find no purpose in life beyond making life even more miserable for the majority (who just had the  luck to land in the dirt, but have not as yet been ground into it)

As for socialists, most of the socialists that i know actually have property (if owning your own home counts?) , all of them respect other people's property (except insofar as big industry, for example,  is somebody's property).  The main difference is that they  don't  feel smug about their relative good fortune, nor measure a man's worth by his bank balance, so they will  regard a guy who lives in a Council bedsit as their  equal.

Still can't decide if you really are obnoxious , or just enjoy  making obnoxious comments

Why should it be OK to disrespect private property just because they have a bit of money?

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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2019, 12:56:35 AM »
And Corbyn, while an idiot, does not support terrorism, he simply keeps on making bad choices as dictated by his particular brand of socialism.

If a Tory MP spoke at a private EDL meeting what would you think of them?

Pretty much what I think of them now.
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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2019, 01:01:11 AM »
And Corbyn, while an idiot, does not support terrorism, he simply keeps on making bad choices as dictated by his particular brand of socialism.

If a Tory MP spoke at a private EDL meeting what would you think of them?

Pretty much what I think of them now.

My point is that a rational person wouldn't think the Tories had any love of the EDL. If I spoke at a series of far-right meetings whilst being right-wing, what does it look like?

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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2019, 01:08:00 AM »
You're jumping to conclusions by mixing hypotheticals with politically motivated stupidity by an idiot.
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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2019, 01:36:42 AM »
Progressives call everyone on the right, Far Right. In fact the call the centrists and Classical Liberals, Far Right.

They do this because every position even centrist is so far right of them. They don't understand it HAS to be measured from the centre to establish where Far Right and Far Left is.
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« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2019, 01:38:20 AM »
Tequila, do you plan to earn a high income when you are out? In between all the shagging, of course. Will you resent paying tax on that income?
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« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2019, 01:40:09 AM »
Progressives call everyone on the right, Far Right. In fact the call the centrists and Classical Liberals, Far Right.

They do this because every position even centrist is so far right of them. They don't understand it HAS to be measured from the centre to establish where Far Right and Far Left is.

But the centre itself is a construct, and varies through time and according to one's perspective.
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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2019, 01:46:28 AM »
You're jumping to conclusions by mixing hypotheticals with politically motivated stupidity by an idiot.

He's spoken at communist meetings before today and supported the USSR during the Cold War.

You'll eat that.

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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2019, 01:48:26 AM »
Tequila, do you plan to earn a high income when you are out? In between all the shagging, of course. Will you resent paying tax on that income?

My financial situation is private.
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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2019, 02:02:13 AM »
Far-right: Neo-Nazis, ultranationalists, etc.
Far-left: Hardcore socialists, communists.

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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2019, 05:20:02 AM »
You're jumping to conclusions by mixing hypotheticals with politically motivated stupidity by an idiot.

He's spoken at communist meetings before today and supported the USSR during the Cold War.

You'll eat that.

I don't think you have enough experience of the various kinds of socialism to form a relevant opinion here. Sorry. I can see how you become vulnerable to the kind of bs that populists harvest naive voters with.
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Re: Liberal/Conservative areas
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2019, 05:28:44 AM »
You're jumping to conclusions by mixing hypotheticals with politically motivated stupidity by an idiot.

He's spoken at communist meetings before today and supported the USSR during the Cold War.

You'll eat that.

I don't think you have enough experience of the various kinds of socialism to form a relevant opinion here. Sorry. I can see how you become vulnerable to the kind of bs that populists harvest naive voters with.

Socialism is really about taking things away from people that aren't theirs. Some state intervention is necessary for a functioning state, and I like things like a national health system and a welfare state, which were inventions of the Liberals in this country, not Labour. Labour took the credit. But I am mostly for minimal regulation and low taxation.