Liberal/Conservative areas

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

That's like "define reptile: it's in between a fish and a mammal".

[Tequila]

It means a centrist interpretation. Social is left, classical is right. Libertarianism is very right depending on the interpretation.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

In between classical and social. I'm classical.

Our Liberal Party used to be like that. Now they are hardcore Tories. Our Labor party is Tory-lite.

[Tequila]

Classical liberalism you wouldn't like. Free markets, tough on crime, civil liberties, low taxes, etc etc. The problem is, as always, the socialists. And you're one. If you were a labour type one and not a Corbynite you would be OK.

[Tequila]

I'd be a Liberal voter.

[Tequila]

You really are against the civil service. Go too far in any direction and they won't wear it. Which is why there is no libertarian paradise nor socialist panacea.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Classical liberalism you wouldn't like. Free markets, tough on crime, civil liberties, low taxes, etc etc. The problem is, as always, the socialists. And you're one. If you were a labour type one and not a Corbynite you would be OK.

I don't even know much about Corbyn. I tend to agree with a few things he has said, and find most criticism of him that I have been to be invalid or dishonest at best.

By "labour type [socialist]", do you mean people like Tony Blair who pretend to be trying to lift up the working class through Thatcherism?

If you want to define what type of lefty I am by comparing me to a politician, you could take a look at Bernie Sanders' platform. There is barely any gap between my ideological positions on most things and Bernie's platform.

[Al Swearegen]

In between classical and social. I'm classical.

Our Liberal Party used to be like that. Now they are hardcore Tories. Our Labor party is Tory-lite.

When I was growing up and when I first started voting, there was a stark difference between Labour and Liberal. I was a Labour voter. Labour was for the working man and had their interests in mind. They worked hand in hand with the Unions. Liberals were for the upper middle class and Business owners.

That was cool. You knew where everyone stood. When the unions got stripped off their power and force, Labour lost its way a little. Then there was little between the two parties. All the representatives from both parties went to same school and universities and generally were all ex-Lawyers or Businessmen or Upper management types. Nothing substantial between them in policies. They would play turns in berating the sitting government policies and then instigate the same policies when they were in whilst the other party had their turn berating their policies.

Now Liberals have not changed substantially but in the last few years Labour has wholeheartedly adopted Progressive policies. This almost makes the Greens a mute point. They are "slight more Progressive" maybe, but it is so hard to tell. In a few years time, who knows maybe they will become a coalition like the Liberals and Nationals.

I will not vote Labour again.

[Tequila]

If you want to define what type of lefty I am by comparing me to a politician, you could take a look at Bernie Sanders' platform. There is barely any gap between my ideological positions on most things and Bernie's platform.

Corbyn is a much more extreme Sanders. Corbyn supports terrorists as well as having a mental economic worldview. Really, having him as leader is bad for democracy.

[odeon]

That's just taking the populist way out. He doesn't support terrorism, which a fact check will show. He is one of the most useless opposition politicians in modern history and about as likely to actually win an election as Mickey Mouse, but that just means he is incompetent.

[odeon]

Then again, facing Boris in the next election should be loads of fun. The idiot vs the incompetent.

[Tequila]

That's just taking the populist way out. He doesn't support terrorism, which a fact check will show. He is one of the most useless opposition politicians in modern history and about as likely to actually win an election as Mickey Mouse, but that just means he is incompetent.

All those meetings with Sinn Féin during the Troubles and Interpal and other Hamas and Hezbollah front groups?

I'd vote Labour if they were normal and the Tories weren't. Next election I will be voting for the Conservatives.

Boris is alright in my book.

[odeon]

Boris is sort of like a British version of Trump. Both lie through their teeth and both continue to do so when exposed. And both make fools of themselves without being prompted in any way.

And Corbyn, while an idiot, does not support terrorism, he simply keeps on making bad choices as dictated by his particular brand of socialism.

[Tequila]

And Corbyn, while an idiot, does not support terrorism, he simply keeps on making bad choices as dictated by his particular brand of socialism.

If a Tory MP spoke at a private EDL meeting what would you think of them?

[Walkie]

When I was growing up and when I first started voting, there was a stark difference between Labour and Liberal. I was a Labour voter. Labour was for the working man and had their interests in mind. They worked hand in hand with the Unions. Liberals were for the upper middle class and Business owners.

That was cool. You knew where everyone stood. When the unions got stripped off their power and force, Labour lost its way a little. Then there was little between the two parties. All the representatives from both parties went to same school and universities and generally were all ex-Lawyers or Businessmen or Upper management types. Nothing substantial between them in policies. They would play turns in berating the sitting government policies and then instigate the same policies when they were in whilst the other party had their turn berating their policies.

sounds remarkably similar to Britain

One strikiing difference I nioticed between England and everywhere else (that's been mentioned so far) is that our cities  (with the exception of London , ofc) tend to be predomitately   ""liberal" and relatively cheap to live in  , whilst the small towns  and villages  are predominately conservative .  The polar opposite of what you guys said.

I suppose that's on account of our  population density, which puts land and pretty lanscapes at a premium , and makes everywhere really close to everywhere else (as Americans and Aussies would view it) ....if you can afford the really high transport  costs. So the middle class  have pretty much taken over the attractive rural spots, because they're so much more pleasant to live in,  and have no problem with commmuting to work , wheeras the working class count themselves lucky if they can get  affordable housing, or social housing in inner-city areas, not only because it's much cheaper than a country cottasge, but also -increasingly often - their wages won't stretch to the cost of commuting; so they need to live right on the doorstep of what little bit of industry is left.  That said, all cities have their nice, leafy districts, with detached houses set in nice big gardens, but you really need to be a millionaire to buy one of those. Your average city-dweller is poor, and the country folk (with a few odd exceptions) are  predominately well-off.