Why Nordic countries might not be as happy as you think

[Yuri Bezmenov]

I'll just drop this here. The amount of denialism going on with the political left in Sweden is just off the charts.



https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/crime-sweden-rape-capital-europe/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/crime-sweden-part-ii-refugee-men-overrepresented-swedish-crime/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sweden-crime-no-go-zone-police/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-sweden-no-longer-investigating-since-migrants/
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/24/report-swedish-police-excuse-migrant-rape-blame-culture-ignorance/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/swedish-police-are-not-allowed-to-give-descriptions-of-alleged-criminals-so-as-not-to-sound-racist-a6810311.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45269764
https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-bombings-grenade-attacks-violent-reality-undoing-peaceful-self-image-law-and-order/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5250755/Sweden-investigates-soaring-number-rapes.html

[Tequila]

I wouldn't know.   Most murders (80% or so) occur in particular inner cities.

Most of the problems are ghettoes in inner cities, and many of them are recent arrivals.  The Swedes have increasingly woken up and are fighting back.

[Al Swearegen]

I wouldn't know.   Most murders (80% or so) occur in particular inner cities.

Most of the problems are ghettoes in inner cities, and many of them are recent arrivals.  The Swedes have increasingly woken up and are fighting back.

Odeon says there is no issue

[Yuri Bezmenov]

I was responding to odeot, who continues to blame me for gun violence committed by ethnic minority gangs in the inner cities of the US.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Pappy, I'm interested in where you are getting your stats from regarding gun violence and where it is committed and by whom.

The US has more than 5 times the murder rate of Australia, for example, and we also have ethnic minorities and gangs and inner cities.

The US has almost 5 times the murder rate of Sweden, which has a few problems as well with ethnic minorities, as you've pointed out.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Pappy, I'm interested in where you are getting your stats from regarding gun violence

No you're not, you're just looking to poke holes in the facts so you can claim victory and stick to your authoritarian narrative.   

Half of US gun violence is committed by black men. A disproportionate amount of gun violence is also committed by Hispanics. The gun violence committed by white people in the US is fairly close to their parent populations in Europe. The same is true with east Asians.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Pappy, I'm interested in where you are getting your stats from regarding gun violence

No you're not, you're just looking to poke holes in the facts so you can claim victory and stick to your authoritarian narrative.   

Half of US gun violence is committed by black men. A disproportionate amount of gun violence is also committed by Hispanics. The gun violence committed by white people in the US is fairly close to their parent populations in Europe. The same is true with east Asians.

If you are unwilling to share the source of your facts in case I poke holes in them, perhaps you are concerned that your facts are (in fact) full of holes?

As always, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. They aren't entitled to their own facts.

I love how the claim is made that, once you remove all the underprivileged, the ethnic minorities, etc from the stats in the US that violence stats are very similar to the overall stats in Europe or Australia. Ignoring the fact that other countries also have underprivileged populations, ethnic minorities with high levels of unemployment, inner city areas, and so on.

[odeon]

Why do Swedes hate their own cars enough to burn them by the scores??   

Heh. The people burning cars are almost invariably people who a) burn other people's cars, and b) don't own cars themselves.

Wow! who would've imagined that!!   

It's got to be better than killing your countrymen by the scores, though, right?

I wouldn't know.   Most murders (80% or so) occur in particular inner cities.

So you have no idea of what's going on in your own country but claim knowledge of what's going on in other people's?

[odeon]

I wouldn't know.   Most murders (80% or so) occur in particular inner cities.

Most of the problems are ghettoes in inner cities, and many of them are recent arrivals.  The Swedes have increasingly woken up and are fighting back.

Odeon says there is no issue

This is really funny. You've literally no idea what the discussion is about.

[odeon]

Pappy, I'm interested in where you are getting your stats from regarding gun violence

No you're not, you're just looking to poke holes in the facts so you can claim victory and stick to your authoritarian narrative.   

Half of US gun violence is committed by black men. A disproportionate amount of gun violence is also committed by Hispanics. The gun violence committed by white people in the US is fairly close to their parent populations in Europe. The same is true with east Asians.

Still with your head firmly buried in the sand, I see. I especially love the "blame it on anything but white people" approach.

[Al Swearegen]

I wouldn't know.   Most murders (80% or so) occur in particular inner cities.

Most of the problems are ghettoes in inner cities, and many of them are recent arrivals.  The Swedes have increasingly woken up and are fighting back.

Odeon says there is no issue

This is really funny. You've literally no idea what the discussion is about.

Hey Odeon. Sweden is touted as the capital of the world, by some and the rape capital of Europe by others. So who is doing all the raping in Sweden.
Pappy thinks it is foreign men and immigrants living in Sweden and I think it is by Sweden male citizens.

Who is right?

[odeon]

Bigot is what bigot does. How does it feel to be one?

[Yuri Bezmenov]

If you are unwilling to share the source of your facts in case I poke holes in them, perhaps you are concerned that your facts are (in fact) full of holes?

You don't seem to think that I've caught on to the games you're playing. You and odeot are perhaps the two most incincere people posting here these days.

I know damn well you're just going to play the same game that young earth creationists play with the theory of evolution. Taking one pice of evidence at a time and trying to poke holes in it, then claiming victory.

In the early days of youtube I saw them play this game repeatedly.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

So you have no idea of what's going on in your own country but claim knowledge of what's going on in other people's?

I know what's going on in my country and have a good idea of what's going on in yours.

I'm not subject to the biased propaganda put out by your government and media.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Still with your head firmly buried in the sand, I see. I especially love the "blame it on anything but white people" approach.

 

White people are only to blame for the homicides they cause.

You, on the other hand, are engaged in the soft bigotry of low expectations, trying to blame black homicides on guns, rather than a broken black culture in the US that is the source of their high crime rates.