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Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah
« on: July 12, 2018, 12:36:44 AM »
https://www.psychopathfree.com/articles/10-warning-signs-of-word-salad.147/

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10 Warning Signs of Word Salad
When they’re feeling threatened or bored, psychopaths will often use what’s called “word salad” as an attempt to regain control over you.

This article is from a later chapter of the Psychopath Free book (click to view on Amazon). Or find in Barnes & Noble stores eveywhere!

When they’re feeling threatened or bored, psychopaths will often use what’s called “word salad” in an attempt to keep your mind occupied. Basically, it’s a conversation from hell. They aren’t actually saying anything at all. They’re just talking at you. Before you can even respond to one outrageous statement, they’re already on to the next. You’ll be left with your head spinning. Study the warning signs, and disengage before any damage can be done:

1. Circular conversations

You’ll think you worked something out, only to begin discussing it again in two minutes. And it’s as if you never even said a word the first time around. They begin reciting all of the same tired garbage, ignoring any legitimate arguments you may have provided moments ago. If something is going to be resolved, it will be on their terms. With psychopaths, the same issues will come up over and over again—why are they so friendly with their ex again? Why are they suddenly not paying any attention to you? Why do they sound so eager to get off the phone? And every time you bring up these issues, it’s as if you never even had the argument in the past. You get sucked back in, only to feel crazy & high-maintenance when they decide “I’m sick of always arguing about this.” It’s a merry-go-round.

2. Bringing up your past wrongdoings & ignoring their own

If you point out something nasty they're doing—like ignoring you or cheating—they’ll mention something totally unrelated from the past that you’ve done wrong. Did you used to drink too much? Well then, their cheating isn’t really all that bad compared to your drinking problem. Were you late to your first date two years ago? Well then, you can’t complain about them ignoring you for three days straight. And God forbid you bring up any of their wrongdoings. Then, you are a bitter lunatic with a list of grievances.

3. Condescending & patronizing tone

The entire conversation will have this calm, cool demeanor. It’s almost as if they’re mocking you, gaging your reactions to see how much further they can push. When you finally react emotionally, that’s when they’ll tell you to calm down, raise their eyebrows, smirk, or feign disappointment. The whole point of word salad is to make you unhinged, and therefore give them the upper hand. Because remember, conversations are competitions—just like anything else with a psychopath.

4. Accusing you of doing things that they themselves are doing

I mentioned this in the previous section about psychopaths putting you on the defense. In heated arguments, psychopaths have no shame. They will begin labeling you with their own horrible qualities. It goes beyond projection, because most people project unknowingly. Psychopaths know they are smearing you with their own flaws, and they are seeking a reaction. After all, how can you not react to such blatant hypocrisy?

5. Multiple personas

Through the course of a word salad conversation, you’re likely to experience a variety of their personalities. It’s sort of like good cop, bad cop, demented cop, stalker cop, scary cop, baby cop. If you’re pulling away, sick of their abuse and lies, they will restore a glimpse of the idealize phase. A little torture to lure you back in with promises of marriage and children. If that doesn’t work, suddenly they’ll start insulting the things they once idealized. You’ll be left wondering who you’re even talking to, because his personas are imploding as they struggle to regain control. Our beloved administrator, Victoria, summed this up perfectly: “The devil himself was unleashed in a desperate fit of fury after being recognized: twisting, turning, writhing, spewing, flattering, sparkling, vomiting.”

6. The eternal victim

Somehow their cheating and lying will always lead back to a conversation about their abusive past or a crazy ex. You will end up feeling bad for them, even when they've done something horribly wrong. You will instead use it as an opportunity to bond with them over their supposed complex feelings. And once they have successfully averted your attention elsewhere, everything will go back to the way it was. No bonding or deep spiritual connection whatsoever. Psychopaths cry “abuse”—but in the end, you are the one left with nothing.

7. You begin explaining basic human emotions

You find yourself explaining things like “empathy” and “feelings” and “being nice”. Normal adults do not need to be taught the golden rules from kindergarten. You are not the first person who has attempted to see the good in them, and you will not be the last. You think to yourself, “if they can just understand why I’m hurt, then they’ll stop doing it.” But they won’t. They wouldn’t have done it in the first place if they were a decent human being. The worst part is, they pretended to be decent when you first met—sucking you in with this sweet, caring persona. They know how to be kind & good, but they find it boring.

8. Excuses

Everyone messes up every now and then, but psychopaths recite excuses more often than they actually follow through with promises. Their actions never match up with their words. You are disappointed so frequently that you feel relieved when they do something decent—they condition you to become grateful for the mediocre.

9. “What in the world just happened”

These conversations leave you drained. You will be left with an actual headache. You will spend hours, even days, obsessing over the argument. You’ll feel as if you exhausted all of your emotional energy to accomplish absolutely nothing. You will have a million pre-planned arguments in your head, ready to respond to all the unaddressed points that you couldn’t keep up with. You will feel the need to defend yourself. You’ll try to come up with a diplomatic solution that evenly distributes the blame, and therefore gives you both a chance to apologize and make up. But in the end, you’ll find that you’re the only one apologizing.
“When men oppress their fellow men, the oppressor ever finds, in the character of the oppressed, a full justification for his oppression.” Frederick Douglass

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Re: Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2018, 12:38:42 AM »
“When men oppress their fellow men, the oppressor ever finds, in the character of the oppressed, a full justification for his oppression.” Frederick Douglass

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Re: Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2018, 02:39:08 AM »
I read the first one laughing. I thought Scrap had posted it and it was levelled at Odeon. Now I see it is you and I figure it was for Scrap or I.

So I read through the next two and took notes. I will better understand Odeon. It is interesting.
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2018, 04:40:01 AM »
That'll be 3 and 4 then.
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Re: Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2018, 05:28:54 AM »
That'll be 3 and 4 then.

No I find he is more 1,2,3.4 and 8. Some of the other ones are not THAT pronounced perhaps for me to pick up on them.

What I find very interesting from detached viewing is seeing how Odeon reframes and cycles through narratives trying to find purchase. There seems to not be any that he is strongly attached to. Truth is not as optimal as distancing himself from whatever shitfest or fucked behaviour.

You  think are taking notes on this, because I saw how you tried to dismiss Odeon referencing my daughter specifically to call me imply a lack of fatherly values for not.....agreeing with him that a middle-aged man, Scrap likes underdeveloped boobs, despite the fact that he is both the most prolific poster of boobs and they all are large and often "over-developed" AND both did not raise an eyebrow with HIM calling ME a cunt BUT saw fit to condemn ME for throwing a similar nasty insult at him calling him a mother fucker.

Make no mistake, YOU, I, and everyone here knows that being called a Mother fucker is not a term of endearment. It is an insult. Cunt too, rates equally as nastily. But everyone here ALSO knows that being called a mother fucker is not saying "I honestly believe that you engage in sexual relations with your mother". It is just something vile to say to someone. The verbal equivalent as spitting on someone. Like calling someone a cunt. It makes no argument. It asks no deeper insight. It does not is not a position of any merit. It is just something nasty and horrible to spit in someone's face. Just like I do to you, you Goofy mother fucker.

You will have a good teacher in Odeon.



I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2018, 05:56:47 AM »
That's a lot of words to say... fuck all of any value or merit. I wonder if anyone read it?
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2018, 06:23:02 AM »
That's a lot of words to say... fuck all of any value or merit. I wonder if anyone read it?

So you DID read or not? How much "value" or "merit" do you think you hold? How much weight do I put on your opinion? Make no mistake, you goofy mother fucker, that I will still put copious amounts of shit on you because I think you deserve it, but seriously understand I do not know or care if you read it or not.
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2018, 06:34:32 AM »
Poor Al. If his brain was a tenth of the size of his butthurt, he'd work for NASA.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2018, 06:41:33 AM »
That's a lot of words to say... fuck all of any value or merit. I wonder if anyone read it?

I read it all, but could not find one point that most above average people who have experienced the internet for a few months have not already worked out for themselves.

I have seen some of the internet over a few months.
Thanks for posting, though; keep it up!
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Re: Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2018, 08:17:49 AM »
That's a lot of words to say... fuck all of any value or merit. I wonder if anyone read it?

Not I.  :laugh:

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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2018, 01:56:55 PM »
I'd like to thank Al for adding value to the thread by posting such an excellent example of narcissistic word salad in response to a thread about... narcissistic word salad.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2018, 05:30:03 PM »
Not at all.
You simply don't wish to engage. Given your own animosity to me (not undeserved) and the fact that you and Icequeen are short skirt wearing, pom pom waving cheerleaders of team Odeon, of course what you are saying is instantly suspect.

But then you are a stupid little collectivist because you hanged yourself with your own intellectual dishonesty.

You can not state as a fact that I have written a word salad or transgressed such word salad guidelines if , as you say, you did not read what I said, Goofy Mother fucker
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2018, 05:42:40 PM »
Tried to read what you wrote. It made no fucking sense.
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Re: Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2018, 05:45:48 PM »
I don't believe they are suffering from a narcissistic personality disorder as the crap is too consistent to be a word salad. No, they are suffering from themselves.