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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2018, 11:59:14 AM »
Now what and whom was this directed at?
It doesn't matter. It doesn't take much to predict how the coat would be interpreted on that particular day. If the children she was on the way to visit were not the message target, then she's clueless and may have advisors who don't truly serve her interests. This was not only a high visibility issue, but also the first time Trump has backed down on anything. Her situation with the coat is entirely of her own making, and any claim of being misunderstood only makes her look very dumb.

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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2018, 04:19:23 PM »
Jack, can you hand on heart claim that the media was EVER not going to spin her visit as badly intended and question her motives in a way they would have never have done with Michelle Obama?

You know they were always going to and big names with bazillion followers were always going to be nasty.

If that is a given, and it is. Why bother making a good impression. Why not tell them to go fuck themselves? Do they desrrve better. Has their past behaciour earned that?

Serious question
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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2018, 04:22:16 PM »

Now what and whom was this directed at?

a) Children at the border?
b) Immigrants in general at the border?
c) people in general?
d) the media who have been arseholes to her and reporting all kinds of bullshit about her?

ONE choice and if it is anything but d) you are a lying immoral ideologue.

So tell me how well you summed that up and tell me the real context.

Learn to ignore me Al, it's easier.



Better idea. I will respond to whatever and whomever I like as I have for the last 10 year, irrespective of any wish, command or suggestion from you.

Soes that sound reasonable?
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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2018, 04:31:14 PM »
Jack, can you hand on heart claim that the media was EVER not going to spin her visit as badly intended and question her motives in a way they would have never have done with Michelle Obama?

You know they were always going to and big names with bazillion followers were always going to be nasty.

If that is a given, and it is. Why bother making a good impression. Why not tell them to go fuck themselves? Do they desrrve better. Has their past behaciour earned that?

Serious question
Then maybe she should have wrote, screw the media, on the back of her shirt. If she really made such a stupid mistake, then it's hers to own.

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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2018, 05:20:34 PM »
Jack, can you hand on heart claim that the media was EVER not going to spin her visit as badly intended and question her motives in a way they would have never have done with Michelle Obama?

You know they were always going to and big names with bazillion followers were always going to be nasty.

If that is a given, and it is. Why bother making a good impression. Why not tell them to go fuck themselves? Do they desrrve better. Has their past behaciour earned that?

Serious question
Then maybe she should have wrote, screw the media, on the back of her shirt. If she really made such a stupid mistake, then it's hers to own.

Again, if it was not this it would be something else. You may think she deserves everything she gets or only in this instance but I would dare you to say that with the constant scrunity and hate sirectes at her, that in the same position you would not have done any "mistake".

Hell, I feel really sorry for her. Why do the press and social media tear her to shreds? It isn't because SHE decided to be President. It is not her being her, because she did not cop crap when she was married to Trump before he ran for President. So what then? The reason they do is because she loves her husband and her husband is President and they don't like it.

Fucking petty, isn't it?

She has nothing to have to own apart from being human and I reckon I can forgive her that much
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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2018, 05:48:07 PM »
Jack, can you hand on heart claim that the media was EVER not going to spin her visit as badly intended and question her motives in a way they would have never have done with Michelle Obama?

You know they were always going to and big names with bazillion followers were always going to be nasty.

If that is a given, and it is. Why bother making a good impression. Why not tell them to go fuck themselves? Do they desrrve better. Has their past behaciour earned that?

Serious question




I think the media's been pretty light on her.


Then again, I thought the jacket was hilarious. Of course, I also see the holocaust as one of the greatest jokes of all time....

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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2018, 06:43:59 PM »
“When men oppress their fellow men, the oppressor ever finds, in the character of the oppressed, a full justification for his oppression.” Frederick Douglass

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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2018, 06:46:23 PM »
Now what and whom was this directed at?
It doesn't matter. It doesn't take much to predict how the coat would be interpreted on that particular day. If the children she was on the way to visit were not the message target, then she's clueless and may have advisors who don't truly serve her interests. This was not only a high visibility issue, but also the first time Trump has backed down on anything. Her situation with the coat is entirely of her own making, and any claim of being misunderstood only makes her look very dumb.

Virtual +1 and then some.

Surely someone on her team should have spotted that and suggested a different jacket for the day?
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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2018, 07:14:44 PM »

Better idea. I will respond to whatever and whomever I like as I have for the last 10 year, irrespective of any wish, command or suggestion from you.

Soes that sound reasonable?

Perfectly.  >:D

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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2018, 08:37:37 PM »
Fucking petty, isn't it?
Sure, but not any more petty than journalists calling Michelle Obama a tranny, saying she's too fat to care about child obesity, calling her the bitter half, and criticizing every piece of clothing she wore while dubbing her the worst dressed first lady in history. First ladies actually get quite a bit of sympathy from the general public when harshly criticized for nothing. This isn't a situation of nothing. The coat was clearly deliberate. The best thing Melania Trump can do is to continue to maintain a level of class, so that means not walking around with big stupid signs scrawled on her back. Unfortunately, some lessons are harshly learned.

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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2018, 08:48:31 PM »
Now what and whom was this directed at?
It doesn't matter. It doesn't take much to predict how the coat would be interpreted on that particular day. If the children she was on the way to visit were not the message target, then she's clueless and may have advisors who don't truly serve her interests. This was not only a high visibility issue, but also the first time Trump has backed down on anything. Her situation with the coat is entirely of her own making, and any claim of being misunderstood only makes her look very dumb.

Virtual +1 and then some.

Surely someone on her team should have spotted that and suggested a different jacket for the day?
Absolutely. It's like that speech writer who wrote her that horrible speech, rickrolling her and plagiarizing Michelle Obama in front of the whole world. Couldn't help but feel bad for her for that.

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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2018, 10:39:45 PM »
Considering the state of Russian orphanages, she probably thinks the immigrant kids have it good.
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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2018, 11:01:05 PM »
Considering the state of Russian orphanages, she probably thinks the immigrant kids have it good.

She isn't Russian?
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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2018, 11:14:10 PM »
Fucking petty, isn't it?
Sure, but not any more petty than journalists calling Michelle Obama a tranny, saying she's too fat to care about child obesity, calling her the bitter half, and criticizing every piece of clothing she wore while dubbing her the worst dressed first lady in history. First ladies actually get quite a bit of sympathy from the general public when harshly criticized for nothing. This isn't a situation of nothing. The coat was clearly deliberate. The best thing Melania Trump can do is to continue to maintain a level of class, so that means not walking around with big stupid signs scrawled on her back. Unfortunately, some lessons are harshly learned.

Which reporters or those talking heads associiated said that Michelle is a transperson?
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Re: The facts about Trump’s policy of separating families at the border
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2018, 11:30:20 PM »
Fucking petty, isn't it?
Sure, but not any more petty than journalists calling Michelle Obama a tranny, saying she's too fat to care about child obesity, calling her the bitter half, and criticizing every piece of clothing she wore while dubbing her the worst dressed first lady in history. First ladies actually get quite a bit of sympathy from the general public when harshly criticized for nothing. This isn't a situation of nothing. The coat was clearly deliberate. The best thing Melania Trump can do is to continue to maintain a level of class, so that means not walking around with big stupid signs scrawled on her back. Unfortunately, some lessons are harshly learned.

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