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Quote from: odeon on January 17, 2018, 01:17:03 PMQuote from: Al Swearengen on January 17, 2018, 07:26:03 AMQuote from: odeon on January 16, 2018, 03:57:46 PMQuote from: Al Swearengen on January 16, 2018, 02:16:10 AMQuote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 05:34:15 PMQuote from: Calandale on January 15, 2018, 09:51:27 AMI'm just wondering what was covered over this time.So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that. Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist. Like a laserlight and a cat. Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?Deflecting again, I see.I do not think you do see. In fact, my premise is that you are ideologically blinded by your political and personal hatred of Trump and what you believe he represents to the point that you are unable to look at him with any reasonable rationality. But let's assume for the moment that my strongly held belief in your ideological blindness is not true. How is what I said deflecting and if so from what exactly?Let's assume for a moment that you are NOT deflecting. That, unfortunately, means that you are clueless.I'd go with deflection if I were you.I would imagine it more on you to ACTUALLY make a case for the deflection you claim I make. Clueless does not equal - does not agree with your opinion or perspective. Never did. Deflection does not mean answering something specifically and then making a point about something related to. Deflecting would rather necessitate only doing the latter. I clearly have addressed the former and made points on the latter. So this does not annoy me. I simply think you have the wrong end of things, and I think it is not a position that needs a strong defence, as there is nothing in what you say. If you make a case for it, I may well have something to actually consider.
Quote from: Al Swearengen on January 17, 2018, 07:26:03 AMQuote from: odeon on January 16, 2018, 03:57:46 PMQuote from: Al Swearengen on January 16, 2018, 02:16:10 AMQuote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 05:34:15 PMQuote from: Calandale on January 15, 2018, 09:51:27 AMI'm just wondering what was covered over this time.So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that. Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist. Like a laserlight and a cat. Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?Deflecting again, I see.I do not think you do see. In fact, my premise is that you are ideologically blinded by your political and personal hatred of Trump and what you believe he represents to the point that you are unable to look at him with any reasonable rationality. But let's assume for the moment that my strongly held belief in your ideological blindness is not true. How is what I said deflecting and if so from what exactly?Let's assume for a moment that you are NOT deflecting. That, unfortunately, means that you are clueless.I'd go with deflection if I were you.
Quote from: odeon on January 16, 2018, 03:57:46 PMQuote from: Al Swearengen on January 16, 2018, 02:16:10 AMQuote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 05:34:15 PMQuote from: Calandale on January 15, 2018, 09:51:27 AMI'm just wondering what was covered over this time.So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that. Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist. Like a laserlight and a cat. Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?Deflecting again, I see.I do not think you do see. In fact, my premise is that you are ideologically blinded by your political and personal hatred of Trump and what you believe he represents to the point that you are unable to look at him with any reasonable rationality. But let's assume for the moment that my strongly held belief in your ideological blindness is not true. How is what I said deflecting and if so from what exactly?
Quote from: Al Swearengen on January 16, 2018, 02:16:10 AMQuote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 05:34:15 PMQuote from: Calandale on January 15, 2018, 09:51:27 AMI'm just wondering what was covered over this time.So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that. Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist. Like a laserlight and a cat. Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?Deflecting again, I see.
Quote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 05:34:15 PMQuote from: Calandale on January 15, 2018, 09:51:27 AMI'm just wondering what was covered over this time.So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.I have a hard time remembering the last crisis - The Wolf book - all but forgotten after 48 hours. That was going to bring him down then this last thing sucked the air right out of that. Remember how the Russia thing morphed into Obstruction of justice which morph into mentally unfit and now I think is morphing into racist. Like a laserlight and a cat. Now who knows apart from bashing Trump and chasing the laserlight, what the Democrats are about? Who are their leaders? Who are they rallying behind? What is their message?
Quote from: Calandale on January 15, 2018, 09:51:27 AMI'm just wondering what was covered over this time.So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.This isn't the first time wondering if maybe you're one of my sockpuppets. Was just about to say, everything since trump took office has been over sensationalized hype about what crap spills from Trumps lips or tweety fingers. It all strikes as a diversion tactic because the news isn't reporting on the context of the political/governmental happenings surrounding the hoopla. The news isn't reporting on the content or the outcome of the meeting, only OMG Trump said shithole.
I'm just wondering what was covered over this time.So far, these outbursts of media bait have inevitably buried some other piece of news.
Quote from: Jack on January 17, 2018, 09:55:02 PMQuote from: odeon on January 17, 2018, 03:32:08 AMQuote from: Jack on January 16, 2018, 05:36:26 PMQuote from: odeon on January 16, 2018, 01:35:34 AMQuote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 08:11:11 PMDon't really think trump has changed the news. Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.If we are to believe Calandale, there is a plan. Me, I'm not sure. I think it's less conscious than that but I think the news are now more about his latest tweets and whatnot rather than actual non-Trump news. The latter still happen, mind. Not talking about non-Trump news. Trump has thus far signed aprox 60 executive orders, produced 50 presidential memoranda, signed 10 presidential determinations, 20 foreign relations notices, and signed 100 bills passed by congress into law. Talk is cheap, especially his, but no one seems to care what he's actually doing.There is a lot in what he is doing which is not getting a lot of notice. It is deliberate. https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/trump-busts-1500-pedophiles-media-keeps-silent
Quote from: odeon on January 17, 2018, 03:32:08 AMQuote from: Jack on January 16, 2018, 05:36:26 PMQuote from: odeon on January 16, 2018, 01:35:34 AMQuote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 08:11:11 PMDon't really think trump has changed the news. Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.If we are to believe Calandale, there is a plan. Me, I'm not sure. I think it's less conscious than that but I think the news are now more about his latest tweets and whatnot rather than actual non-Trump news. The latter still happen, mind. Not talking about non-Trump news. Trump has thus far signed aprox 60 executive orders, produced 50 presidential memoranda, signed 10 presidential determinations, 20 foreign relations notices, and signed 100 bills passed by congress into law. Talk is cheap, especially his, but no one seems to care what he's actually doing.
Quote from: Jack on January 16, 2018, 05:36:26 PMQuote from: odeon on January 16, 2018, 01:35:34 AMQuote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 08:11:11 PMDon't really think trump has changed the news. Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.If we are to believe Calandale, there is a plan. Me, I'm not sure. I think it's less conscious than that but I think the news are now more about his latest tweets and whatnot rather than actual non-Trump news. The latter still happen, mind.
Quote from: odeon on January 16, 2018, 01:35:34 AMQuote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 08:11:11 PMDon't really think trump has changed the news. Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.It gives him a lot of power to say he's changed the news, because that would mean changing the people who provide the news. The idea is along the same lines of intentional smokescreen conspiracies. While it's more interesting to think there's some powerful manipulation or design behind it all, it makes more sense that superficial news is all over the news everyday because that's what people prefer to learn about from the news. News is about tv ratings, web hits, and print sales just like any other media topic, and that means the news hasn't changed at all.
Quote from: Jack on January 15, 2018, 08:11:11 PMDon't really think trump has changed the news. Sure he has. Instead of the media writing about other events, they tell the world what a moron Trump is. It's all over the news, every day.
Don't really think trump has changed the news.
Let's focus on what he might want to hide while directing your ("your" as in "Al's") attention elsewhere:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/nov/30/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-full-listThe Guardian is a reasonably balanced source but by no means the only one. Guessing Church Militant might disagree but I know whom I'd pick. The moron-in-chief is very likely a sexual predator.
Oh, and http://anonhq.com/investigative-no-trump-is-not-to-thank-for-this-years-human-trafficking-busts/
Trump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement"Incredible genes."
it is well known that PMS Elle is evil.
I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.
Quote from: odeon on January 17, 2018, 01:18:53 PMTrump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement"Incredible genes." Yeah, that doctor's note felt like something they'd publish about kim jong-un in north korea. I should be done being unsettled, but I honestly did find it unsettling.
Quote from: Go Piss Up A Rope on January 15, 2018, 07:01:32 PMQuote from: odeon on January 14, 2018, 07:09:47 AMWhat an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.What does this have to do with his alleged statement??Many other countries ARE shitholes. Much of Central America = shitholeMuch of South America = shitholeMuch of Africa = shitholeMuch of the Middle East = shitholeSelect parts of Eastern Asia = shitholeI don't see a problem with calling a spade a spade. I can't change my mind when you're right.
Quote from: odeon on January 14, 2018, 07:09:47 AMWhat an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.What does this have to do with his alleged statement??Many other countries ARE shitholes. Much of Central America = shitholeMuch of South America = shitholeMuch of Africa = shitholeMuch of the Middle East = shitholeSelect parts of Eastern Asia = shitholeI don't see a problem with calling a spade a spade.
What an utter moron that man is. He is a disgrace for his nation, an embarrassment, a liability. The idea that people actually voted for him is bizarre.
This is a message board, not a ouija board
Quote from: odeon on January 18, 2018, 02:43:58 AMLet's focus on what he might want to hide while directing your ("your" as in "Al's") attention elsewhere:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/nov/30/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-full-listThe Guardian is a reasonably balanced source but by no means the only one. Guessing Church Militant might disagree but I know whom I'd pick. The moron-in-chief is very likely a sexual predator.Looks like you are deflecting. How? I don't mind explaining. A) Jack makes mention that Trump is actually doing a lot and none of which is being mentioned in the mainstream newsB) I agree and give an exampleC) You laugh off my example and say he is a predator (no proof that he is of course).What is the relationship between A and B? What is the relationship between A and C? Deflection.
Quote from: odeon on January 18, 2018, 02:37:17 AMOh, and http://anonhq.com/investigative-no-trump-is-not-to-thank-for-this-years-human-trafficking-busts/From that site's comment section:I guarantee it would been another year of nothing had Trump not been in office.. I also do remember Trump talking about pushing the efforts of Trafficking while in office..https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/09/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-federal-law-respect-transnationalThose local initiatives aren’t what people aren’t the full effect of what he did his presidential order with the new task force and signed an executive order declaring a national emergency related to “serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world” and imposed sanctions on 13 individuals, using his authority under the 2016 Global Magnitsky Act.The Treasury Department sanctioned an additional 39 people and entities for alleged human rights abuses and corruption, for a total of 52 targets. Among those sanctioned is the son of Russia’s prosecutor general.The executive order says “the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption” outside of the United States “have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems.”this initiative was responsible for taking down 8 of the biggest global human trafficking rings in the world if he did not sign that order local officials wouldn’t have organized to the lengths they are now doing. As well as the coordination from Microsoft and the NSA which have been seeing honeypots online hence the new initiative for cybersecurity he signed in to order to help battle thatI really hope you do not see this source as the ultimate authority on its own matter as the comment section seem to suggest its own readers are strongly divided on their position.
Quote from: El on January 18, 2018, 06:19:57 AMQuote from: odeon on January 17, 2018, 01:18:53 PMTrump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement"Incredible genes." Yeah, that doctor's note felt like something they'd publish about kim jong-un in north korea. I should be done being unsettled, but I honestly did find it unsettling.I get it. The only thing you would have accepted is one that is in line with your preconceptions about him. THAT should be unsettling to you.
Quote from: Al Swearengen on January 18, 2018, 09:42:21 AMQuote from: El on January 18, 2018, 06:19:57 AMQuote from: odeon on January 17, 2018, 01:18:53 PMTrump's medical sparks online 'girther' movement"Incredible genes." Yeah, that doctor's note felt like something they'd publish about kim jong-un in north korea. I should be done being unsettled, but I honestly did find it unsettling.I get it. The only thing you would have accepted is one that is in line with your preconceptions about him. THAT should be unsettling to you.I get it. Your hero gets a beating and you lash out.