The other trump card in the gun debate.

[odeon]

I thought we were comparing Malmö with the US.

[Walkie]

I thought we were comparing Malmö with the US.

yep.   He's got you there, Scrap

However, the mention of the place aroused my interst and so I checkeded it out on Wikipedia. Here's a passage fom there that neatly explains their high crime rate, IMO:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malm%C3%B6

Although the transformation from a city with its economic base in manufacturing has returned growth to Malmö, the new types of jobs have largely benefited the middle and upper classes. While the inner city becomes gentrified and the upper-middle class have settled the Western Harbour, little has changed for the inhabitants of the districts of the Million Programme; Malmö remains a city of sharp social divides and high unemployment.

Now, isn't it well-known that criminal gangs tend to arise amongst the socially deprived? I do very much agree with gun control legislation, but it looks to me like the more equal  distribution if wealth would  reduce gun crime (as well as other crime) a whole lot more effectively that restricting   access to guns would.

But the 1% consider that  too high a price for the to pay, I suppose.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Now, isn't it well-known that criminal gangs tend to arise amongst the socially deprived?

No. The most socially deprived Americans are poor rural whites in Appalachia, no gangs there and very little crime.

I do very much agree with gun control legislation,

Do gun triggers pull themselves??

but it looks to me like the more equal  distribution if wealth would  reduce gun crime (as well as other crime) a whole lot more effectively that restricting   access to guns would.

There's a certain degree of truth to this. It isn't necessarily poverty that causes crime, it's the uneven distribution of wealth in urban areas that are statistically linked to higher crime rates. Uruguay and Paraguay for example, are relatively poor countries with low crime rates.

But the 1% consider that  too high a price for the to pay, I suppose.

The 1% largely only care about their own interests.

[odeon]

I thought we were comparing Malmö with the US.

yep.   He's got you there, Scrap

However, the mention of the place aroused my interst and so I checkeded it out on Wikipedia. Here's a passage fom there that neatly explains their high crime rate, IMO:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malm%C3%B6

Although the transformation from a city with its economic base in manufacturing has returned growth to Malmö, the new types of jobs have largely benefited the middle and upper classes. While the inner city becomes gentrified and the upper-middle class have settled the Western Harbour, little has changed for the inhabitants of the districts of the Million Programme; Malmö remains a city of sharp social divides and high unemployment.

Now, isn't it well-known that criminal gangs tend to arise amongst the socially deprived? I do very much agree with gun control legislation, but it looks to me like the more equal  distribution if wealth would  reduce gun crime (as well as other crime) a whole lot more effectively that restricting   access to guns would.

But the 1% consider that  too high a price for the to pay, I suppose.

The causes (in Malmö) are indeed considered to be well known but not sufficiently addressed. It's been a rather frequent discussion in the Swedish media, especially since the ManUtd striker, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, is from one of the, um, affected areas.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Cherry picked statistics are largely meaningless and are often used to misrepresent what is really happening. Some areas have much higher crime rates than other areas in the same country. If you want a meaningful comparison, maybe you could compare Malmö to Detroit?

With all its problems, with very high levels of immigration from countries whose dangerous citizens the US won't even let through immigration, Sweden only has about a quarter the rate of murders per capita that the US has. France, with its land borders, has about a third of the per-capita murder rate that the US has.

I was going to look up some stats and list out some comparisons but, lucky for me, someone already did it  :

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/WP0KG/the-crime-situation-in-sweden-compared-to-the-us-in-4-charts

Probably some intellectually dishonest Social Justice Warrior from the Frankfurt School of Cultural Marxism.

[odeon]

Cherry picked statistics are largely meaningless and are often used to misrepresent what is really happening. Some areas have much higher crime rates than other areas in the same country. If you want a meaningful comparison, maybe you could compare Malmö to Detroit?

It's as they say, all relative. Comparing Malmö to the US is at best dishonest.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

The causes (in Malmö) are indeed considered to be well known but not sufficiently addressed.

Yeah, too many Dune Coons. 

[odeon]

The causes (in Malmö) are indeed considered to be well known but not sufficiently addressed.

Yeah, too many Dune Coons. 

Bigots will be bigots.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

The causes (in Malmö) are indeed considered to be well known but not sufficiently addressed.

Yeah, too many Dune Coons. 

Bigots will be bigots.

I agree, Dune Coons are bigots in addition to being rapists (Malmö IS the rape capitol of Europe) and criminal thugs.

We don't have the problem here of people throwing hand grenades at police stations or hand grenade attacks in general, unlike Sweden.   

Oh, I almost forgot, we don't have criminal gangs that shoot up police stations with full automatic AK-47's (an ACTUAL Assault Rifle). either.   

[odeon]

36 Swedes will not die in gun-related deaths today. What are the numbers like over there?
45,000 Swedes will not die this year because of lack of insurance. What are the numbers like over there?

Do you ever wonder why so many people see you as a joke, Scrap?

[Arya Quinn]

36 Swedes will not die in gun-related deaths today. What are the numbers like over there?
45,000 Swedes will not die this year because of lack of insurance. What are the numbers like over there?

Do you ever wonder why so many people see you as a joke, Scrap?

I think he's too busy 'negging us and posting incoherent shit disguised as piss-poor arguments to see it. It'd be hilarious if it didn't remind me of work, seeing a man older than myself losing his marbles possibly due to early dementia or some other kind of illness. 

[Yuri Bezmenov]

36 Swedes will not die in gun-related deaths today. What are the numbers like over there?

Roughly 33.

Half of those will be black people killing other black people.

Hispanics also make up a disproportionate percentage of that number.

What you're left with is murder rates comparable to Europe as a whole.

Violent crime follows the racial lines of the parent populations, the FBI has known this for decades now.

[Al Swearegen]

What is this about hand grenade attacks? Who, where and why?

[Yuri Bezmenov]

What is this about hand grenade attacks? Who, where and why?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden


They get more hand grenade attacks in a year than the US does in a decade.

[Gopher Gary]

They should make grenades illegal.