Governor McAuliffe is officially a badass.

[odeon]

There's no equivalence between the two. They are not, and never were, the same thing.

[Jack]

There's no equivalence between the two. They are not, and never were, the same thing.

Within the context of protest there is equivalence. All citizens have the right to peaceful protest and both groups steal that right from everyone around them. There were probably plenty of protesters present who were associated to neither group. Their voices not only weren't heard, but their voices were polluted and adulterated by terrorists.

[Al Swearegen]

There's no equivalence between the two. They are not, and never were, the same thing.

Within the context of protest there is equivalence. All citizens have the right to peaceful protest and both groups steal that right from everyone around them. There were probably plenty of protesters present who were associated to neither group. Their voices not only weren't heard, but their voices were polluted and adulterated by terrorists.

Absolutely,  and not only are these protestors tarnished and in some cases doxed but many were attacked.
I have no doubt in my mind that if the White Supremacists were not there that the Antifa and the like would have started trouble as they have done regularly AND I have no doubt if Antifa were not there that the white supremacists would have caused trouble.

[Jack]

Real life should have a sinbin.

[Al Swearegen]

Real life should have a sinbin.

That is the truth.

What I do not get is the whole want to force ideological positions on others. Don't like a statue pull it down. Don't like that campus speaker? Blockade the audience from going in, scream obscenities of them and punch shit out of them. Don't like counter protestors? Throw flashbombs and other missiles.

Believe me, I also think that forcing your religious beliefs or getting someone to adhere to your religious mores are terrible ideas.

I sure as Hell think supporting dehumanising people for the content of their heritage or skin colour or gender or whatever is abhorrent and if you are so hateful that the only way you can get your hate across is driving over people, something is fucking wrong.

All of these things come from bad places and ought to be discouraged, condemned and railed against.

[Al Swearegen]

I think this girl is pretty spot on and pretty much for reasons as I said

[Jack]

Jack likes her.

[odeon]

There's no equivalence between the two. They are not, and never were, the same thing.

Within the context of protest there is equivalence. All citizens have the right to peaceful protest and both groups steal that right from everyone around them. There were probably plenty of protesters present who were associated to neither group. Their voices not only weren't heard, but their voices were polluted and adulterated by terrorists.

Sorry, I will never set equivalence between Nazis and those who think Nazis have no place in a society.

[Al Swearegen]

There's no equivalence between the two. They are not, and never were, the same thing.

Within the context of protest there is equivalence. All citizens have the right to peaceful protest and both groups steal that right from everyone around them. There were probably plenty of protesters present who were associated to neither group. Their voices not only weren't heard, but their voices were polluted and adulterated by terrorists.

Sorry, I will never set equivalence between Nazis and those who think Nazis have no place in a society.

Do you believe that Neo Nazis are Nazis? Do you believe that the people that committed World War 2 crimes are in the ranks of the Neo Nazis?

Interesting.

By drawing an equivalence between the group responsible for atrocities in World War 2 and Racist violent thugs in America, I think your work is all up hill.

Antifa would purge people with differing opinions and change society into a version of 1984 if they could. Neo Nazis would purge people with the "wrong" cultural heritage or skin colour, if they could.

Yet you managed to try to turn that into Nazis and those that dislike Nazis : Bad vs Good. Jesus.



THIS is probably not quite equivalence BUT much less a false equivalence than Neo Nazis are actual Nazis and Antifa are just people not wanting Nazis to exist.

[odeon]

Don't embarrass yourself, Al. Your reading comprehension is off again.

[odeon]

Oh, and only an idiot would post what you did. Or a bigot.

[Al Swearegen]

Oh, and only an idiot would post what you did. Or a bigot.

Sure rapist. Do we really want to go there again? I would not have thought so. I do not think it is good for the forum.

Maybe you could make your argument a little stronger. Perhaps not make false equivalencies?

[Jack]

There's no equivalence between the two. They are not, and never were, the same thing.

Within the context of protest there is equivalence. All citizens have the right to peaceful protest and both groups steal that right from everyone around them. There were probably plenty of protesters present who were associated to neither group. Their voices not only weren't heard, but their voices were polluted and adulterated by terrorists.

Sorry, I will never set equivalence between Nazis and those who think Nazis have no place in a society.

Who cares what either think? The best interpretation of what people think is through their actions.

[Jack]

Sorry, I will never set equivalence between Nazis and those who think Nazis have no place in a society.

Though there is an equivelance between groups, and even individuals, who commit acts of terrorism to in the name of ideology. Threats, destruction, violence, arson, bombings, and murder. They are the bullies of society whose acts show they believe their thoughts are more important than other people's rights.

[Icequeen]

Well if there were any bright spots to this weeks show of hatred...IMO it was these two occurrences.

Christopher Cantwell, who was followed during the gathering of neo-Nazis, KKK, white supremacists and alt-right for a 22-minute documentary for VICE, showed off his guns to journalist Elle Reeve and boasted: “I'm carrying a pistol, I go to the gym all the time, I'm trying to make myself more capable of violence.”

...and fast forward...crying his eyes out after being identified and called out on social media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQUrWlraj_4&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy that cup of salty neo-nazi tears.


Oh...and for #2...Bannon just got CANNED.